What Women Want … At Least In New Jersey
Is it national “women in Biglaw” month and nobody told me? Yesterday, we learned that women who don’t put their careers on hold in order raise children can expect a similar salary to their male counterparts. A few days ago we learned that women hate working for other women. A couple of weeks ago, we had a story about alleged gender bias on the board of the Cardozo law review.
Isn’t there a sporting event or contest of some kind I can go watch? I’m happy to drag my knuckles all the way to my cave.
In any event, a new study out today shows that a large number of women are very dissatisfied with their jobs:
Dissatisfaction with work-life balance is pushing women lawyers in New Jersey out the door and into new jobs, a survey has found.Most of the respondents—almost two-thirds—said they were satisfied with their ability to integrate their work and personal lives and the predictability of their hours, according to a press release. But the numbers were different for women lawyers who had changed jobs in the last five years. More than 70 percent of the job-hopping lawyers said their previous employer was not supportive of full-time flexible alternatives, while only 30 percent described their current employer as unsupportive of such arrangements.
“An important new finding of this study is that women lawyers often choose an exit strategy when faced with the dilemma of choosing between work and family obligations,” the study said. “The business case for more family-friendly approaches to the practice of law could not be more clear.”
In a perfect world, a more family-friendly approach would seem like an excellent business idea.
But in the world wrecked by the current economy, firms are actively trying to force attrition. You’d hope that the attrition would be gender neutral, but at this point everybody who voluntarily leaves a firm is one less person that will show up on Layoff Tracker.
After the jump, Legal Blog Watch points out that even when women do jump from one job to another, the grass is often just as dull.
Unfortunately, leaving isn’t always the right answer for women looking for a better work/life balance:
The study also suggests, however, that leaving a firm isn’t necessarily the answer. Of respondents who changed employers in the last five years, 30 percent remained dissatisfied with their current employer’s level of flexibility. While that’s a significant drop from the 70 percent dissatisfaction levels indicated before women changed jobs, having a full third of female lawyers unhappy at their firms isn’t a figure worth celebrating in my book.
You don’t need two X chromosomes to care about work/life balance. It would be interesting to see a similar study regarding male job jumpers. It might just be that 1/3 of people are going to be dissatisfied about their work/life balance regardless of their not-independently-wealthy circumstances.
But it would also be interesting to see if these Jersey numbers hold up nationally. Maybe when you live and work in New Jersey, you feel like you are giving up the models and bottles NYC lifestyle and you are therefore entitled to a better work/life balance. It can be a big shock if you feel like your west of the Hudson salary is lower than your Gramercy contemporaries, but your hours are just the same.
Why Women Lawyers Leave: A Quest for Flexible Work and Supportive Environments [ABA Journal]
Study Shows Female Lawyers Willing to Leave Firms to Get a Life [Legal Blog Watch]
Earlier: Gender Gap Disappears If You Just Keep Working
Women Expect Too Much Empathy From Female Partners
Gender Bias on the Cardozo Law Review?




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Wow a water is wet study. never seen one of them before.
They are in New Jersey. Of course they are unhappy.
Might these women have a reliance -- that is, promissory estoppel -- claim against firms? That is, if they relied on a generous maternity program, they could point to Restatement 90 as an authority for a colorable lawsuit?
I'm really tired of that stock photo.
That article doesn't even mention Biglaw and the other stories don't center around Biglaw either.
That photo makes me want to pound her in the ass on top of all those papers.
This post is retarded. Can we have a post on something that matters. Like the current state of certain practice areas, etc.
"After the jump, Legal Blog Watch points out that even when women do jump from one job to another, the grass often just as dull. "
often just as dulll...
IS you fat moron! IS!
grass often IS just as dull.
missing verb ftl
Given that I have $250,000 in student loan debt and no job, I'd rather cross swords with Feyd Rautha on Giedi Prime in an arena of our own choosing instead of working with whiny overprivileged NJ female associates who don't know that they are lucky to have a job at all.
9, please keep intelligent requests to yourself.
Thanks,
Mgmt
I'm kind of digging the Dune references lately. Calls for a schtik maybe number 11?
The problem certain women really have is with biology. I mean, its just not fair: Why should women have to carry the child and give birth, and have to interrupt their careers, while men don't? This is the real source of any inequality. So who is the problem with - evolution? God?
It's just women hitting the harsh reality that not all of creation will bend over backwards to fulfill their work/life balance myth of a life. They thought bill or GTFO only applied to men, not them, as they are special snowflakes with golden dreams of feminist tranquility.
Law firms are in the business of selling attorney time. The more of it they can sell, the better.
Those who, for personal or family reasons, need or want to preserve regular, significant blocks of their time from being sold by the firm will ALWAYS be unhappy. No clever "work-life balance initiative" by the firm will ever change this fact.
Whether firms should be in the business of selling time is a separate question. But as long as they are, the lady lawyers of New Jersey will remain miserable.
Don't tell that to the Bene Gesserit
That stock photo is perfect. The headline refers to New Jersey, and the photo is a girl who (perhaps only 'cause of the way she's leaning on her hand) seems to have poofy, over-teased hair along with a vacuous expression.
Also, confidential to 14: You are a putz.
No PE Since he was outed in the last post, huh? It's kinda nice without that prick running his mouth.
Do the girl in the photo have man hands? Whatever - I'd do her.
What women want. . .mustache rides.
Can you imagine how ugly Elie's wife must be?
"An important new finding of this study is that women lawyers often choose an exit strategy when faced with the dilemma of choosing between work and family obligations"
"Exit strategy," i.e., leetch off your husband's salary for the rest of your life.
Women are never satisfied with anything...no news here.
They won't be satisfied until they admit to themselves that they don't like working, and have found a rich enough sucker so that they are free to stay home for the rest of their lives and devote their days to PTA meetings, volunteer work, and other womanly pursuits.
24 = True
When demand (for lawyers) outstripped supply (of lawyers), law firms had to cater to associate demands for 'work/life balance', flex-time, etc. Now that supply outstrips demand (by a large margin), law firms have no need to maintain these programs, and will not. The lawyers who offer the most value (smart; work hard; don't complain; don't bore you with their 'work/life' dilemma; have an objective view of their economic worth) will continue to be employed; those who don't, won't.
24, after a few years of being a stay-at-home they'll be unsatisfied with that and blame their husband/family for "curtailing their ambitions" and "forcing" them to stop working, and start to take it out on him.
Then divorce, taking all of husband's money, and single life. By this time getting older and feeling unsatisfied with appearance and [lack of] accomplishments.
19 -
PE got outed??? Where???
27,
And when they are rich, separated or divorced, disatisfied MILFs, that's when I swoop in and have them doing things they never did for their husbands.
Ex-spouses of workaholics are starved for attention, and they will do some kinky stuff in order to get it.
God love them.
-Young and plowing your ex-wife
24 + 27 = 180
29, she's all yours, crow's feet, saggy ass, and all. Enjoy.
Women don't need to go to law school and become "successful."
Why you ask!?
Because if you're not a hot blonde, no one cares about what you have or what you are.
Instead of "going for the gold" go live out your life the way you really want to. You don't need riches and things to make you happy. Look into your INTERESTS!
31,
Sorry friend, she used your money to get liposuction and implants. Now she's a total cougar and I am taking full advantage.
You know that thing you always wanted her to do but she never would? She begs me for it.
-Loves railing your wife
What women want? What do women attorney want?
They want a nice huge c***. If they get one, they will stop being the obnoxious c*** that they are.
There is this one girl in my class who works in some small law office. She makes sure everyone knows that she was on honor roll and that she has been working on real cases at her job (she speaks really loud with outlandish hand gestures).
I go, "Girls like this act this way because they just need a good F***!"
To all females: No one cares about you, unless you look like Megan Fox. You can never be Oprah (she's 1 in a billion) and even if you do become her, you'll never be Megan Fox!
With all of these work-life balance issues, why is it always expected that "work" has to change? Why is the employer expected to make concessions because the the employee has unrealistic expectations or made foolish life choices?
Partner track isn't 9-5. And if you expected your husband to take on more of the childcare responsibilities and he's not doing it, it's not everyone else's job to bend over backwards so you can "do it all." You married the schmuck, not us.
24, 27,
So, so true. I witnessed so many Hear Me Roar classmates at a top 5 school work for no more than 4 years, and then--yahtzee!--discover their interest in their maternal side ...but only after making sure they had a marriage ring and new baby (allegedly) from the loins of a high-income lawyer, consultant or I-banker.
Suddenly it was all strolls to Starbucks in yoga pants and play dates. They sighed now and then about what they "gave up" for their (now multiple) kids, as they ask the nanny to fix lunch and get ready for meeting the gals for coffee during the afternoon.
The husband? Oh, he is working his fucking ass off somewhere to pay for all her shit, but whatever. He is the lucky one, you know. He didn't have to sacrifice like she did.
Everybody is missing what is most important: was PE outed.
According to 19, he was outed, but where?? How? What was said??
Womens is poisons!
I know what women in New Jersey want, and it's not this. . .
Women hate working for other women? News flash: everyone hates working for women.
The only thing worse than a female boss is a female boss who is a lawyer.
that chick looks hot in the first picture, can i date her
The men on this blog complain about women who work (they're cold, hard, bitchy, etc). Now they're complaining about women who stay home (they're gold diggers, leeches, etc). Pick one, guys. Or alternatively, admit you hate/are intimidated by/never will get f*cked by a woman and you take all your anger about it out here.
girls from nj want beer!
42: Men can't win with either a working woman or one who stays at home and breeds these days; no fault divorce lets her take all your shit for any arbitrary reason. We'll just stay single and price you broads out of the market while boning 18-22 year olds who are impressed by our moneys. Holla.
i knows what womens want, a whole lotta T, followed by some spooning and afta-lovin jibba jabba.
45 = fantastic
Chicks from Jersey are at the top of my list. Hey ladies, after you quit working at the firm, come down to my house down the shore!!!
I like these girls... They should work at the Bada-Bing