Notes from the Breadline: Comes a Time (Part IV)
Ed. note: Welcome to the latest installment of “Notes from the Breadline,” a column by a laid-off lawyer in New York. Prior columns are collected here. You can reach Roxana St. Thomas by email (at roxanastthomas@gmail.com), follow her on Twitter, or find her on Facebook.
I am sitting in the war room, trying to guess what time of day it is and what the weather is like. Have I been here for an hour, or is it closer to lunchtime, and a brief respite from the monotony of document review? Is it a beautiful day outside, or is it dark and rainy? There are no windows in the room, so these details can be elusive. I will myself not to look at the clock, anticipating the pang of disappointment that comes with knowing just how many hours lie ahead. A moment later, I give in: 10:30. I sigh and turn back to my computer.
A week into the document review, my days have taken on a deadening sameness. I go to the office. I plow through documents. Ben Gay applies healing ointments to his joints; Mr. Potato Head samples from each of the major food groups. At some point, Elisa comes in to verbally abuse one or more of us. When she leaves, no one can get back to work until the nature of her bitchiness and the ridiculousness of her review protocol have been thoroughly deconstructed. These sessions seem almost necessary, a way to cleanse the collective palate of something bitter and distasteful.
They are also, sadly, the moments when the occupants of our forgotten room seem most alive, and when I catch flickering glimpses of the lawyers many of them are, or have been. In the process of discrediting Elisa and her somewhat arbitrary choices, the reviewers defend their judgment calls, piece together strategic arguments, and display a practical command of litigation that seems far greater than that of our young overseer. Still, these attempts at legal discourse invariably remind me of law school, when people immerse themselves in the painfully earnest discussion of substantive issues, with no sense for how ultimately unimportant their opinions are.
I try to remind myself that this is work, and — while far from ideal — it is better than the alternative … or at least more lucrative. But it’s hard for me not to think about document reviews I did as an associate. Although they could be tedious or frustrating (or tedious and frustrating), they often felt more like a blitzkrieg than a prolonged occupation. It was different when I was immersed in a case, faced with a deadline, and anxious to see what the documents would reveal; I remember the purposefulness of turning my attention to the task at hand, the measurable sense of progress, and the feeling of dorky satisfaction that came from seeing the pieces of the puzzle fall into place.
This assignment has none of those features. Elisa has given us almost no background information; without a feel for the context of the case, I spend an inordinate amount of time worrying about whether I’ve missed some crucial nuance. I can recognize names, but I still have no sense of the people they belong to. And while I — like many lawyers — have indulged in the fantastic notion that my hours of scut work will pay off with a Perry Mason moment, I don’t even know enough about the case to picture the eventual cross or deposition during which the important documents will be brandished at a blanching witness.
More after the jump.
So I slog on. It is, I often think, like watching someone else’s children do something that is supposed to be cute. Even if you can understand it on some level, it is difficult — in the absence of a fundamental connection — to really fathom why the smudgy picture that little Billy drew with Cray-Pas is remotely interesting, or why you should believe that it’s actually a family portrait, a depiction of the unicorn he rode to school, or whatever else he’s trying to sell you. On the other hand, reading through endless, indistinguishable versions of the same marketing plan and a thousand e-mail forwards entitled “This is SOOOO funny! Must read!!!” sometimes makes me long for a hand-drawn picture of a unicorn. At least it would be different.
Instead, the only thing that distinguishes one day from another is the mind-blowing daily picnic that Mr. Potato Head produces from his carpet bag. He reminds me of the Very Hungry Caterpillar in a book I had when I was little, who, on successive days, devoured an astounding variety of foodstuffs. Starting modestly with a single apple on day one, the Hungry Caterpillar subsequently worked his way through two pears, three plums, four strawberries, and five oranges, until, on day six, he ate his way through some ice cream, a piece of chocolate cake, a pickle, a block of Swiss cheese, a salami, a lollipop, a cherry pie, a sausage, a cupcake, and a whole watermelon. For Mr. Potato Head, every day is day six.
At 10:45, I stroll to the bathroom. I feel like washing off the grime of the war room and the stink of Mr. Potato Head’s mid-morning snack (a turkey drumstick), but after a few Lady MacBeth-ish minutes of scrubbing I conclude that it is futile. I pause for a moment before the mirror, suddenly aware of my increasingly slovenly attire. I wore a suit for the first few days, but since we are safely hidden from view in the war room, my sartorial motivation seems to be vanishing rapidly. At this rate, I estimate, I will be wearing a housecoat and slippers to work soon.
I am dabbing at coffee stain on my shirt when another reviewer walks in. “Hi, Angela!” I say brightly. She doesn’t respond, and I notice that she is wearing headphones. When she stops at the sink for a moment and takes them off, I greet her again, but she looks at me strangely. “Do I know you?” she says defensively. I am flummoxed for a moment, amazed that it is possible to sit in a tiny room with someone for a full week without registering their presence.
“I’m working on the document review,” I tell her. “Maybe you didn’t recognize me outside of my natural habitat.” I smile, but she responds by putting her headphones back on and turning the music up so loudly that I recognize the words of that Beastie Boys classic, “Paul Revere,” from where I stand. Then she disappears into the stall and un-self-consciously takes a loud shit. I flee, feeling defiled.
On my way back to the war room, I run into Josh, the young guy with visible tattoos. He asks me if I want to go downstairs for a cigarette. “Sure,” I say. I have been smoking again, mostly because it provides me with an excuse to go outside. While we smoke, I tell him about my run-in with Angela in the bathroom. “She’s whacked,” he says, unsurprised. Angela is a “lifer”; she works on document reviews all the time, and probably never had - or will have - a regular job. “She has a lot of experience,” Josh explains, “so she gets gigs pretty regularly. But I don’t know if the people who hire her for these things ever actually meet her.”
Mr. Potato Head, Josh tells me, has a similar story. He went to law school at night when he arrived in this country, and has never worked as anything but a coder. “Not that there’s anything wrong with that,” he laughs wryly. Josh went to a top tier school, but only at his father’s insistence. He never wanted to be a lawyer, and he takes document review jobs because they pay better than waiting tables and leave his nights free for playing gigs with his band. “I feel sorry for you guys who are, like, actual lawyers,” he says, with the tactless sympathy of someone who is 25. “I mean, I don’t give a shit about this stuff, but I would be totally bummed if it was, like, my career.” The thought of a “career” in document review makes my stomach turn queasily. I must also look uneasy; Josh punches my arm cheerfully a moment later. “Aw, don’t worry, Roxie,” he says. “You’ll be rockin’ a real job soon enough. I would totally hire you.”
When we get upstairs, I expect to find the usual collection of semi-comatose reviewers, fixed blankly on their computer screens. Instead, we walk into what appears to be an episode of the Tyra Banks show. Yvonne, one of the coders, is stalking around while the others stand or sit, staring at her somewhat fearfully. Only Mr. Potato Head, who is placidly biting into a hardboiled egg, seems unmoved. “This ain’t right!” she says emphatically, sucking her teeth. “This ain’t right! That bitch knows it ain’t right, and I will not hesitate to call my attorney!”
I don’t know what has Yvonne so incensed, but I am not particularly surprised by her state of pique; I suspect that she works at temp jobs because she could never bill a full eight hours a day, given how much time her incessant complaining occupies. I am tempted to ask her what her latest problem is, but Susan shoots me a warning look, mouthing the words, “don’t ask,” as she covers her eyes, then her ears, and finally her mouth. While the idea of settling down to peruse documents while Hurricane Yvonne rages in the background strikes me as odd, every else seems to be turning back to their work. Clearly, I have a lot to learn about the etiquette of temp work. I sit down at my station and catch the treasure troll’s eye, remembering how shabby I looked in the bathroom mirror. Fuck you, I tell him silently. At least I’m wearing a shirt.
Moments later, Elisa barges in, sneering. “What’s the problem, Yvonne?” she asks impatiently.
“Don’t ask me what the problem is, Elisa,” Yvonne shouts back, spitting out her name as though it is a swear word, or an alias. “I told you my damn chair was broke, and it’s cutting off my circulation. I have diabeetus, and this shit ain’t right. Are you gonna be asking me what the problem is when I lose my foot?” Yvonne holds out her foot, which is bubbling over the side of her shoe. No one speaks for a moment, and I have the urge to point out that Yvonne’s foot is too fat for her shoe. Problem solved!
“Look, Yvonne,” Elisa hisses. “I told you I would call Facilities, and they’ll come and LOOK AT YOUR CHAIR.” She enunciates the last few words as though she is talking to an ornery child. The scene is almost unbearable, but I am transfixed nonetheless.
“And where is Facilities, Elisa?” Yvonne squawks back. “No one came to look at my chair. If I get back from lunch and I don’t have a new chair, I am calling my attorney.” She picks up her pocketbook and flounces out dramatically, even though it is only 11:15. Elisa spins around, looking ready to pounce. I duck reflexively, and a few of the others cower visibly. “I’ll be down later to go over a few issues!” she yells at no one in particular. Then she storms out, slamming the door behind her.
As soon as she is gone, we abandon document review in order to pick apart the confrontation, as though reviewing a schoolyard fight. I suggest that Yvonne may be giving Elisa a flushy in the girls’ bathroom as we speak, after which we spend the next forty five minutes constructing elaborate Elisa vs. Yvonne cage-match scenarios. We agree that the smart money is on Yvonne, but wonder if Elisa could hold her own if equipped with various easily-obtained office supplies. A stapler? Maybe. A staple remover? Quite possibly. Ben Gay mentions a letter opener and a packet of rubber bands, and Josh laughs so hard that a fountain of soda - caught mid-swallow — sprays from his mouth. For a moment, it feels like we are a group of friends enjoying a good laugh, notwithstanding the distinct Lord of the Flies overtones. Nothing brings people together, I think, like collective animosity.
When I leave that night, I am exhausted. I wonder how someone can accomplish so little and still feel so tired. I fall asleep early, but am awakened in the middle of the night by an amorphously bad dream in which it is winter — months from now — and I am still in the war room, pulling my own baked potato out of a plastic bag. The thought of being comfortable there, of becoming an old-timer like Ben Gay or losing the ability to recall my sense of dignity, fills me with unease.
After half an hour, I get up and turn on the television. Almost everything on is a paid program, advertising something life-altering - a better butt, a cleaner colon, a way to grow fabulously wealthy by speculating on real estate with no money down. I flip channels and land on what appears to be a lurid crime show. The camera pans over a grainy picture of a man wearing the kind of huge, unfashionable glasses that seem synonymous with social exclusion. “What if you found out that someone you worked with was a serial killer?” the solemn voiceover intones. A faux-shocked co-worker appears onscreen. “He was real nice,” the man says, presumably referring to the serial killer. “He mighta been a little quiet, but he seemed like a good man, a churchgoer.” Sinister music plays. “No one suspected that there was a brutal killer in their midst …” the voiceover continues ominously. An image of Mr. Potato Head flashes through my mind, unbidden. I shudder and change the channel.
I settle on the National Geographic channel, where an episode of The Dog Whisperer is just starting. I watch for awhile, waiting to be inspired by a remarkable show of dog-to-human bonding, but eventually I begin to doze off. I am half asleep when I hear it: the hissing sound. It is the sound that Elisa makes whenever she comes to the war room. Suddenly awake, I turn up the volume — and there it is again. Cesar (the Dog Whisperer himself) is talking about being a pack leader. As the members of the pack, many of whom are pit bulls, mill around him, he hisses sharply at them. The sound brings them up short, displaying his “calm, assertive energy,” and “psychological dominance” over the other dogs. He reiterates the importance of dominance, being the pack leader, and instilling respect in your doggie underlings. “No fucking way,” I say aloud to the cats. “Elisa is trying to be the pack leader.” That makes us the pack.
I suddenly wish there was someone there - someone human - to talk to. “I work for someone who learned interpersonal skills from the fucking Dog Whisperer,” I announce to the empty room. In this scenario, I think unhappily, I am the dog. I turn off the TV and lie down in bed, wondering how I went from working as a lawyer to being a putative pack animal. I spend a few minutes feeling disgusted by Elisa and pondering whether my lowly status makes it okay to bite her. Then my anger fades, and I realize that, more than anything, I am sad. My good intentions, the notion that I could help people, the belief that I could earn a place in my profession of which I could be proud … these things suddenly seem fanciful, even silly. I feel my eyes well with tears. Because I am alone and it is the middle of the night, I don’t bother to fight them.
The next morning I go to the office, irritable, tired, and hoping that Elisa will not make an appearance. When I get up to the war room and she is standing in the middle of the pack, I am instantly annoyed. I glance quickly at Susan, who looks stricken, and then at Ben Gay, who is tossing ointments into his ratty plastic bag. “Roxana,” Elisa says brusquely, “don’t bother settling in. It looks like the case is going to settle, so we’re sending you all home for now. If something changes, your agency will let you know.”
I look around the room at my colleagues’ faces. The end of this project means the end of my paycheck. It means that I won’t have money that I counted on, and budgeted for. Even so, I feel a surge of relief.
“Well, Elisa,” I say, reaching out to shake her hand, “good luck to you.” She looks at me uncertainly, as if unsure what to do with this unscripted moment. I grab the hand she has extended tentatively, shaking it firmly. “It’s okay,” I tell her. “I don’t bite.”
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Roxana St. Thomas is a laid-off lawyer living in New York. You can reach her by email (at roxanastthomas@gmail.com), follow her on Twitter, or find her on Facebook.




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Speaking of incompetent lawyers, can anybody find "Elie Mystal" on the New York State bar site?
http://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/attorney/AttorneySearch
If he worked at Debevoise NYC, why can't we find him? Did he even pass the bar?
Obama: "Voter intimidation of white people is acceptable in my America."
"Career lawyers overruled on voting case; Black Panthers had wielded weapons, blocked polls"
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/may/29/career-lawyers-overruled-on-voting-case/
long (as in lengthy)
first as in firsty
I just came all over Mystal's moobs. Twice.
this was really good, roxana. thanks.
Brilliant
Thank goodness this ordeal is over! I suspect, however, that other calamities await our intrepid heroine. Tune in next week. Same Bat time. Same Bat channel!
Be nice to the people you meet on your way up. You'll be meeting them again on your way down.
6 & 7 = Roxana
"I turn off the TV and lie down in bed, wondering how I went from working as a lawyer to being a putative pack animal."
It's because you're so incredibly inefficient. Maybe if you didn't spend 45 minutes at a time pontificating about why people in law firms are insane, you'd still have a real job.
I understand writer's license, but I think these stories would be actually better if Roxana didn't embellish so much, the ending to the last story ruined it (a guitar and a banjo player on the SUBWAY?, there's a reason why guitar players like to set up shop in stationary places, and they just happened to play Folsom Prison Blues...never seen anthing like it in my tens of thousands of times on the subway)...and now she's plagiarizing Family Guy with a bit about a foot and diabetes (although the Family Guy bit was much funnier).
It would be poetic justice if Elisa were suddenly forced to do conract doc review after being laid off from her cushy associate job and have to associate with Yvonne and Mr. Potato-Head and listen to the chidings of a clueless summer associate chosen to supervise them.
~Dune guy
After very little deliberation, I have decided to hate you Roaxana. Thank Sotoextramayo for this outcome.
1 - Hmm, I couldn't find him either. I do see Lat there:
http://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/attorney/AttorneyDetails?attorneyId=5626425
good stuff
that was a good read. thanks roxanna.
thanx roxana, you're the best!
thanks for the story - good read
I don't understand it. Why are attorneys needed to do this monkey see, monkey do type of work. An high school grad can code documents if give basic instructions, and they probably could do it better than atttorneys since they might actually be challenged by the task. If doc review was all I had in life, I would seriously consider taking a long swim out to sea at night.
15, yes, that is to be expected, since Lat was a real lawyer at Wachtell. You can also find Evan Jowers on there, showing his status as "delinquent", which is to be expected for a former lawyer who no longer pays his dues. At least Jowers is on there.
So why is Elie Mystal not on the NY bar website? Did he fail the bar and never got admitted to the NY bar?
You should retitle this: notes from tyler perry
Good post!! When you are doing doc review life passes you by as days seem to last for years. Very weird. But if you keep your head up you will find a better life. The money aint bad either.
16, 17, 18, 19 = Roxana
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What a great read! Thanks so much. Many great moments. I'd totally buy the book.
If this is not based on true events then the Yvonne part is super-racist.
Is anyone else tired of seeing "--" instead of a real em-dash all over ATL?
I, too, want to know why Elli is not listed on the NY Bar website.
Long but worth it. My favorite ATL feature.
Oh, woe is Roxana!
She is so much better than the thousands of other lawyers doing doc review, how horrible it is for her to to be lowered to the likes of the rest of us!
It is as if the Queen of England suddenly had to pay rent and worry about bills like a regular person!
Perish the thought!
If Roxana was really entitled, wouldn't she have been amongst the top performers at her form to avoid layoffs? I mean, her firm didn't lay of her entire class, did it? And since they'd be desperate to keep an African American to maintain diversity, isn't this a strong indication of her incompetence?
Roxana, you go girl!
In the next installment, Roxana is up late at night watching TV with her cats again. In a fit of loneliness, she calls Josh, the trust fund brat from her doc review project. He just finished a set with his band. He comes over and they have sweaty, unfulfilling sex. She thinks she has found a real relationship; he goes back to his bandmates and tells them about this easy lay he knows and gives them all her phone number. She becomes a groupie for a lousy local band.
Sorry to sound ignorant, but how does anyone know Roxanna's ethnic background? Also, how did this document review "career track", "profession' or whatever you want to call it ge started?
Roxana is not African American.
"[S]he disappears into the stall and un-self-consciously takes a loud shit"
Good line, but I still fail to understand why this doc review is interesting merely because a former associate is doing it. Sure, she's sobbing in bed, but did she ever consider that maybe there are others who feel the same way, or even worse?
Well, she probably has a little high yellow in her somewhere.
Good post, but we never found out whether Yvonne got her chair fixed.
Roxana, you are a very accomplished writer. I enjoyed this installment immensely. Thank you.
wassup ELIE YOU FAT PUNK
where's your bar license?
What ever happened with Shabeefa? Did she ever get a call back from that guy?
Roxanna, you are such a wonderful writer. If nothing else, perhaps you should consider threading these columns into a book.
You have a beautiful talent. Every time I read your pieces, I feel sad when I reach the end. I just want to continue reading.
I'm happy that you are no longer at the doc review, it sounded miserable. Perhaps you will have to reach more drastic decisions (e.g. moving from NY), but your overall happiness is what ultimately matters the most. Good luck with the job hunt. I just know it will work out well for you.
Thanks for sharing your stories, and your remarkable talents with us.
11- ride the 4/5 between City Hall and Union Square. Noteworthy are the strolling mariachis along with magicians and do-wop singers.
Good post, Roxana. You make me proud to be an African American.
Does anyone know what the going rate for a semi-free-lance blog post like this is? Just curious.
This story of the subculture of doc review "lifers" makes me think of the stories of people living under the city in abandoned subway tunnels.
@33: Thread over. You win.
This is an outstanding line. Bravo.
"Still, these attempts at legal discourse invariably remind me of law school, when people immerse themselves in the painfully earnest discussion of substantive issues, with no sense for how ultimately unimportant their opinions are."
If you're having intellectual legal discussions with career temp attorneys, and those discussions remind you of your law school experience, you should never have been hired as an associate by a reputable firm. I really lost all pity for the Roxanna character right there.
Also, to make this more realistic should you ever write about doc review again, you should be aware that contract attorneys are typically terminated through the temp agency rather than in person by the associate. Even if the case settled in the middle of the night, the Roxanna character would have gotten an early-morning phone call from the agency. Assuming the associate is competent, the good reviewers (at least) will get follow-up emails explaining what happened and saying "nice job."
And I know a major theme in the story was to paint the Elisa character as evil, incompetent and generally unworthy of a full-time job compared to the Roxanna character (or apparently even as compared to the career temp attorneys), and I thought the hissing thing was funny (like a snake). But it's not in line with her character -- who consistently doesn't give a shit about the temps, their work product, or her relationship with them -- to now say the hissing is part of a "pack leader" strategy.
That said, overall a pretty good job lining up the usual cast of characters in a contract-attorney-staffed doc review. There's almost always a person who eats all day, an odd-lotion person, someone who complains about physical ailments, and an associate being pulled in way too many directions at once to bring someone up to speed mid-review. But you missed a few characters who belong in the room: (1) the reviewer who's actively trying to network with the associate and the other reviewers, even though none of them have any say over any hiring decision anywhere; (2) the reviewer who always shows up late and would be fired except that the associate has higher priorities than interviewing someone else and getting the newbie up to speed; and (3) the Perry Mason reviewer who brings a shit ton of nonresponsive documents to the associate's and other reviewers' attention because those documents purportedly are the "key" to the case, whether under the legal theories in the complaint/briefs (which your incompetent Elissa character didn't share or your Roxanna character simply didn't read) or under some new legal theory developed by the reviewer. Sometimes you can catch a networker or late-starter in pre-review interviewing (never hire a contract attorney who asks about a full time position in the interview or someone who's not at least a couple of minutes early for the interview), but you'll never catch a Perry Mason before the review -- in fact, they frequently stand out in interviews since they, unlike most career contract attorneys, know enough relevant law to come up with stupid legal theories.
Sincerely,
Associate who's led a few of these things.
Who is Shabeefa?
46: "And that's when the CHUDs came after me."
31,32,39,42, & 44 = Roxana
I hate when CHUD's chase me. Ruins my whole day.
LaQueefa Johnson.
The Sardaukar should undergo a campaign of extermination against CHUDs because mutants are not welcome in the Imperium, least of all the Kwisatz Haderach.
This bit is dead. I didn't kill it. Don't blame me. It was dead when I got here.
WTF is a "coder"?
WTF is a "coder"? (Real attorneys want to know.)
49 is a condescending twit.
Thanks for the post, Roxana. These are a joy to read.
Roxie - can't wait to read the next installment. Funny stuff.
59 & 60 = Roxana
How pathetic must one's life be to follow up every positive comment with a " = Roxana"?
After reading several installments of Roxanna's literature, I have a very low opinion of her and think that she has an incredible sense of entitlement and superiority. Is document review beneath her dignity, or is it being supervised by a female associate really what bothers her? The constant references to Elisa's "bitchiness" and her status as an associate (as if Roxanna only respects male partners) demonstrate that Roxanna has a problem working with her peers. I have absolutely no sympathy. Grow up. She's not the only person who has ever been laid off, and unlike many, she doesn't even have a family to support - only herself. Maybe a good dose of unemployment is what Roxanna needed to rid her of her sense of entitlement.
After reading several installments of Roxanna's literature, I have a very low opinion of her and think that she has an incredible sense of entitlement and superiority. Is document review beneath her dignity, or is it being supervised by a female associate really what bothers her? The constant references to Elisa's "bitchiness" and her status as an associate (as if Roxanna only respects male partners) demonstrate that Roxanna has a problem working with her peers. I have absolutely no sympathy. Grow up. She's not the only person who has ever been laid off, and unlike many, she doesn't even have a family to support - only herself. Maybe a good dose of unemployment is what Roxanna needed to rid her of her sense of entitlement.
63 (and 64)--I couldn't disagree more. Her portrayal of the document review sounds like a living hell to which no one should be subjected! What we should all try to do as attorneys is treat other attorneys, paralegals, staff, and people in general as we ourselves would like to be treated (i.e. the anti-Elisa).
Roxana = Shabeefa from around the block.
Holla!
Egads Roxana does ATL pay you by the word?
67 - Thank you for noticing. Roxana is an abysmal writer who uses 40 words when 15 would do. If this is any indication of how she wrote legal briefs, it's no surprise she lost her job. All these people saying what a great writer she is are insane.
Great piece, Roxana! Keep up the good work!
PS - You write like a Howard dropout.
Dear Douchebags,
If you already know what to expect from this series of articles, why do you bother reading it?
Dear Rox,
Thanks for the update. Every time I read your shit, I die a little more on the inside.
62= DEFINITELY Roxana
62= DEFINITELY Roxana
Honestly.... what the hell is the point of writing these long, drawn-out stories???
69 = Shabeefa
62, 65, 69, & 70 = Roxana
what a bunch of cretins inhabit these comments! why do you feel the need to insult this writer? she is clearly talented. if you don't like it, don't read it.
i get the impression you just like to come on these boards and partake in this negativity because you have nothing else to give, you cowardly ciphers, you ugly anonymous nobodies. and i am not roxana, don't even know her, never read her until today.
76 = Roxana
49 -- you're a tool. More importantly, you're a tool who obviously has had very limited, narrow experience of running these things. Next time you think of writing some condescending crap like this please, pause for a moment. Take a deep breath. Stand up. Quietly approach the closest wall and beat your head against it until you are unconscious. Then decide whether to send something.
Ok? thnx.
Not Roxanna.
77, 75, 72, 71, 61, 52, 24, 10 = LOSER!!!
@76
Everybody's brave in cyberspace.
33, awesome --
but this snippet was quite good --
Instead, the only thing that distinguishes one day from another is the mind-blowing daily picnic that Mr. Potato Head produces from his carpet bag. He reminds me of the Very Hungry Caterpillar in a book I had when I was little, who, on successive days, devoured an astounding variety of foodstuffs. Starting modestly with a single apple on day one, the Hungry Caterpillar subsequently worked his way through two pears, three plums, four strawberries, and five oranges, until, on day six, he ate his way through some ice cream, a piece of chocolate cake, a pickle, a block of Swiss cheese, a salami, a lollipop, a cherry pie, a sausage, a cupcake, and a whole watermelon. For Mr. Potato Head, every day is day six.
49,
Dead on. Furthermore, can we now establish that all of Roxanna's "experiences" are made up whole cloth?
The bit about Dog Whisperer... oh yes, you just HAPPENED to catch it on TV at 3 in the morning (they don't even do DG reruns at that time, you clearly caught it Sunday morning like the rest of us) and realized that's what your bitchy review-boss was doing.
In no way shape or form did you watch Dog Whisperer while in the middle of writing this week's installment, hear all about the "pack leader" stuff and the hissing, and DECIDE to incorporate it into your piece because it would be interesting.
These "pieces" would be interesting if they were written by an actual laid off attorney about real experiences. But since they come from an attorney-turned-professional writer who isn't "unemployed" and who isn't having any of these experiences, they fail.
49 doesn't know what he/she/it is talking about.
I worked on a document review in the past where an agency performed recruitment but the law firm employed the lawyers directly. It may not be common, but it happens. I've worked with smart people who went to good law schools and could have pursued another path but for various reasons (family, stress, health, sole practice, whatever) do document review.
I'm currently working as a document reviewer, but of a vastly different type from that described here (work at home, have occasional onsite meetings which include both client and counsel representatives as well as reviewers, etc.). Just because my experience doesn't match this author's doesn't mean I can't recognize truth in her writing.
Um, 82? Where I live (i.e., NY), the Dog Whisperer is rerun in the middle of the night. More importantly, can we now establish that you don't have the slightest clue what being unemployed, working a doc review, or looking for a job is like? If you did, you wouldn't question whether these "pieces" are true. How 'bout you just don't read them if you find them so implausible? M'kaay?
79 & 84 = Roxana
Roxana needs to come on over to S&C for her doc review. Welcome her to the coding warehouse overlooking all of wall street, where the assignments are far more drudgerous, the bathrooms far more shitty, the pay far lower, the lifer temps far more hardcore and the staff attorneys far more egotistical and washed up. The doc reviews at S&C are the stuff of comedic and dramatic legend, especially if you like being entertained by the sort of self-inflicted human tragedy that goes hand in hand with the world of temporary document reviews.
Um, 82? Where I live (i.e., NY), the Dog Whisperer is rerun in the middle of the night. More importantly, can we now establish that you don't have the slightest clue what being unemployed, working a doc review, or looking for a job is like? If you did, you wouldn't question whether these "pieces" are true. How 'bout you just don't read them if you find them so implausible? M'kaay?
Hey Roxanne,
I'd like to COME a time ... all over your face!
BOOYAH!
Somebody said it before, but this is DEFINITELY the woman who wrote that "Opinionistas" blog. No doubt about it.
Roxana, please ignore all the negative idiotic comments on this thread. Know that you have readers who LOVE your writing & are rooting for you & wishing you all the best (and a rewarding, permanent lawyering job soon)!
A couple points:
The bathroom piece could have been edited better or deleted entirely. If option A is to keep the scene, then you can make the interaction between the two characters more succinct while also editing out the many lines referencing Macbeth. If option B is to delete, then you could have expressed the sentiment you were trying to convey in the protagonist's personal thoughts or, tacked it onto a scene where the protagonist interacts with another character. Remember, arcs have options/variations/tangents for a reason and part of that is to make for a healthy edit process; kind of like writing a Motion/Brief...
Also, I've already commented on your wont of semi non-fiction / faux fiction, so I'm not going to repeat myself.
Finally, A REQUEST: please keep the next installment short. While I like reading this esteemed rag, I'm not going to waste ALL of my work day free-time from my insane clients to read this clap-trap. Instead, I wait until they've left their offices and I am still stuck in mine.
This is pure fiction, right?
#49 has an accurate humorous take on some reviews. His was the funniest of this long drawn out narrative. And #33 is a good example of clear concise writing that'll keep the reader reading without having their eyes glazing over.
Who actually thinks she's a talented writer? All you Roxana-Lovers. HUH??? I don't get it. Hers is the writing of a below average lawyer. Why are you gushing over her?
#49 has an accurate humorous take on some reviews. His was the funniest of this long drawn out narrative. And #33 is a good example of clear concise writing that'll keep the reader reading without having their eyes glazing over.
Who actually thinks she's a talented writer? All you Roxana-Lovers. HUH??? I don't get it. Hers is the writing of a below average lawyer. Why are you gushing over her?
I look like Darkwing Duck!
These notes from the breadline are funny!!!
I remember that the 1L's at WESTERN STATE UNIVERSITY COLLEGE OF LAW had a look on their face, like they've seen a ghost, because of all the work they had to do.
2L and 3L goes by and they know they will make it. They have these smiles on their faces, like "life is going to be okay." They go around talking about how the new 1L's will never "get it."
What is funny is that because they pass 3L and are graduating or are graduating, their lives will be a never ending 1L experience because the life of a lawyer especially from a low ranked school sucks!! Epic LOLLOLOLOL
49 is an arrogant douchebag who has no clue what he is talking about. Attorneys supervising contract attorneys frequently release them instead of the agency so STFU!
I've been doing document review for about a year now and I've never encountered a crowd like Roxana describes. Its been a relatively pleasant, albeit boring, way to earn a paycheck.
90 = Roxana
Noooow, here's a little story I have to tell about three bad brothers you know so well. It started way back in history with Adrock, MCA and me - MIKE D!
My only problem with the piece is this line:
"Then my anger fades, and I realize that, more than anything, I am sad. My good intentions, the notion that I could help people, the belief that I could earn a place in my profession of which I could be proud ... these things suddenly seem fanciful, even silly."
People in BigLaw recognize that they aren't "helping people" in the sense that the phrase is viewed by teh general public or the wide-eyed 1L. The only people you're helping in BigLaw are your Fortune500 clients who are often being sued because "people" claim (rightly or wrongly) that the Fortune500 client has shat on them.
BigLaw is all about the money and each day a little piece of your soul dies.
The people who are hating on these threads really just need to stop reading them. Roxana, I am an avid reader of your blog and this is the first time I have commented - please know that you've got tons of fans of your column out there and just ignore the vocal minority. Your experiences - embellished or not - really strike a cord with me, another laid off Biglaw associate. I find them hilarious and sad and timely and just excellent reading (in the style of Joshua Ferris, Then We Came to the End). Please keep them coming!
just give up and become a craigslist hooker already.
Roxana, you are a talented writer and your pieces have both polish and intellectual vibrancy. Very refreshing. Please don't let the 26 year-old former frat boys who dominate this comment board dim your passion for this series. You seem to have shed your writing of the linguistic and stylistic constraints that we litigators have internalized; this makes you a much better writer and also opens you up to attacks from lawyers who love IRAC.
One request: please please refrain from using the words "proverbial," "virtual" or "putative" to refer to things which are obviously metaphors. We get that you don't really have tomato in your hair and that layoff notices are not on pink slips of paper.
Your character sounds as though she'd like to return to a law firm; I am guessing that you would prefer to write full-time and suspect that this is where your true talent lies.
Either way, I wish you good luck and I look forward to your next installment!
Roxana, you are a talented writer and your pieces have both polish and intellectual vibrancy. Very refreshing. Please don't let the 26 year-old former frat boys who dominate this comment board dim your passion for this series. You seem to have shed your writing of the linguistic and stylistic constraints that we litigators have internalized; this makes you a much better writer and also opens you up to attacks from lawyers who love IRAC.
One request: please please refrain from using the words "proverbial," "virtual" or "putative" to refer to things which are obviously metaphors. We get that you don't really have tomato in your hair and that layoff notices are not on pink slips of paper.
Your character sounds as though she'd like to return to a law firm; I am guessing that you would prefer to write full-time and suspect that this is where your true talent lies.
Either way, I wish you good luck and I look forward to your next installment!
These installments need to be non-fictional. No knowledge without truth.
I really enjoyed this -- gave me a laugh when I needed it too. Good Luck Roxanna -- you're going to be just fine.