Pls Hndle Thx: Pimp My Ride
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ATL-
I’m a summer associate in Texas (3,500 sq. ft., wife, etc) and I drive to work where I park my car in the office’s parking lot. My car is a 2005 BMW. Should I be concerned about looking like a jackass?
Get Outta My Dreams, Get Into My Car
Dear Get Outta My Dreams, Get Into My Car,
You should always be concerned about looking like a jackass, whether it’s rolling up to work in a Beemer or wearing a fedora at Sunday brunch. In any other year, normal associates might look forward to the summer class arriving; but this year, the summers are viewed as intruders, freshly arrived to snatch associates’ jobs out from under them. Despite the ludicrous scavenger hunts and game nights concocted in your honor, make no mistake; you’re persona non grata at terra law firma, and your goal this summer should be to be as unobtrusive as possible. Your car should reflect your humility as well as your groundling status at the firm, and a BMW, no matter how ancient, will never do that. You’ll need to lease, but what should you get?
Driving up in a car of the Ferrari/Lamborghini/Lotus ilk is obviously out, since you’re not Richard Gere from Pretty Woman and this is not a “dream date” with Jillian on the The Bachelorette. Jaguars are for eccentric billionaires, Ford Probes are for high school sleazebags and Mercury Sables are for drug dealers. Since you’re in Texas, you may be tempted to trade in your BMW for a pickup truck, but I strenuously advise against this since pickups indicate that spend your free time listening to Toby Keith while patrolling the Mexico border with a rifle and Coonhound named Rusty. Toyota Priuses are for wimps, and minivans are for people who drive carpool or own florist shops. DeLoreans, Pintos, GMs and other cars that are dangerous and/or no longer made are always cool.
When I worked as an intern in Newark, I drove a 1997 teal Toyota Camry with Cobra rims (not kidding). The smooth handling and tape deck made many people very jealous, and when someone stole my front left rim, I learned firsthand the dangers of driving flashy cars. Go with something junky, like a Kia or an Isuzu, but if you don’t feel like shelling out the extra cash, your best bet is a Huffy. Get the one with the basket so you can take your laptop home.
Your friend,
Marin
Elie loses his sh*t while parallel parking, after the jump.
To say your car is an important status symbol severely underestimates the car’s central importance to American culture. Quite frankly, rolling around in a Kia is the easiest way to say “I’ve totally given up,” without putting on pounds and wearing sweatpants.Now, obviously, it’s the middle of a recession, and there is no way you can justify making a significant automotive purchase on the strength of a summer associate gig. So you are likely stuck with whatever you’ve been using in law school. In law school, I rolled in a 1992 powder blue Cadillac Fleetwood. And I could parallel park that baby like I was on performance-enhancing spatial awareness drugs. Of course, I’m generally not to be trifled with.
The most important thing is that your car signify some characteristic about yourself of which you are proud, something you want others to know about you. If you are stuck with the car that you have, then really the only thing you can do is change your personality to fit your crappy ride. This shouldn’t be too hard. There is something about you that made you buy/lease that car in the first place, and hopefully that something is positive. Figure out what it is and highlight.
If you’re rocking the ‘05 BMW, every time you get into it around people you should mutter, “I can’t believe everybody thinks this is new. It’s a certified, pre-owned BMW you jackasses.” If you’ve got a GM model, you need to deck that out with American flags and talk about how you are doing your part to help the economy recover, and you hope your firm will do the same. If you are driving a Lexus, well, you just have to pay the $200 to a body shop to get the “u” replaced so you can drive a “Lexis.”
Whatever you drive, I had to sell that Caddy when I moved to NYC full time. So, I’m totally jealous.
Don’t worry, everything is going to be fine this summer.
Rick Wagoner
I agree that there should be, and usually is, some crossover between one’s car and one’s personality. There’s a reason that my hunky high school gym teacher drove a Chrysler LeBaron, but the nuns at the church across the street from my apartment drive an AMC Eagle. If you drive an ‘05 BMW to the office, you’re signaling to the partnership that you’re the kind of guy who rather buy a certified, pre-owned douchemobile than a practical, down to earth Nissan Altima. Just remember, nobody can judge you if you drive a Honda Accord. Nobody.





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First to say Jaguars rock!
Doesn't he look like a jackass merely by virtue of this query?
Come on, Dave Gordon isn't that bad. I mean, he didn't layoff that partner's son who failed an exam 90% of first time takers managed to pass.
Second to say BMWs rock and he should keep his.
Marin, you're an idiot. Beemers are BMW motorcycles. Bimmers are BMW cars.
-Bimmer driver
Actually, there are only two reasons why the person who wrote this inquiry is a jackass:
(1) He truly believes that people care about his car (or him, for that matter); and
(2) In a down economy, he is considering renting a car even though he owns a perfectly good one.
Trust me, buddy, if you don't get an offer, more likely than not its as a result of your douche-baggery, not your ride.
Jaguars suck. My 2008 535xi is the bomb. Kobra Kai!
Anyone who uses the terms "Beemer" or "Bimmer" is a jerk who probably makes a show of tossing his keys to valets while saying "take it easy on the clutch, brah."
In sum, you're a weenie, Commenter #5.
I bet Lat would rather drive a Rimmer.
As long as its not the X3.
Agree with 2.
7: Get a body bag.
You should be in the office early enough (and late enough) that no partner should ever see you enter/exit said vehicle - so it doesn't matter if it's a Yugo or a Rolls. Besides, it's not like BMWs generally turn heads or warrant a second glance, it's not like you're showing up in this: http://www.rsportscars.com/koenigsegg/2009-koenigsegg-ccxr-edition/
Don't worry about it.
People will also judge you by the watch you wear. Lets talk about watches.
I have been reading this site for about 2 months now and I still don't get the whole 'asslobster' thing.
People will also judge you by the watch you wear. Lets talk about watches.
Only douchey white people and all black people think cars are status symbols. In Texas, it's all about how big your house is, how blonde your wife is, and how big her boobs are.
To those who lease: wtf are you thinking? New York made the practice illegal for a reason -- i.e., to protect idiots from themselves.
I wouldn't spend the money to rent a car. I'd just tell people that you got a good buy on a pre-owned BMW.
You could also park the car a few blocks away and walk the remaining distance to work.
Where are you in Texas, though? Dallas has the DART and Houston has a more limited train system. If you work in downtown Dallas, you should be able to park at a DART parking lot and take the DART train in without any problems.
agreed with 8. i like BMW cars, but am petrified of being seen as 1) the typical striver 20something who just got his first real job and 2) commenter #5 who shrieks that it's a BIMMER not a BEEMER.
if i ever had a BMW and anyone said "nice bimmer, dude!" i'd have to go robert wone on him.
a 2005 bmw (probably a 3 series) is not really that expensive of a car. used-- its similar to driving an acura or even a honda. nor are they particularly flashy.
it would probably cost you more to sell the car, and buy an altima or something, so don't bother. BMWs are great cars, and not terribly out of place at a law firm.
i would just keep it. anyway, people who look at cars as status symbols are stupid.
To 8: Hi, Marin, nice to see you're commenting on your own threads. Pretty petty, though.
You used the term. I corrected you. Get over it.
@13 - Rose gold Bulgari.
Oh come on. Maybe that bar failing LaTTTham partner's son was just better than the 29 laid off Latham NY first years who passed. Just because bar failing Latham partner's son scored in the bottom 10% the first time he took the exam doesn't mean anything.
This is the dumbest concern I've heard. Going to work in a 4 year old car? Who cares what you drive? Another reason why I look down on flyover country high atop my Manhattan apartment, which probably is smaller than this schmuck's walk-in closet. Get outta my dreams AND GET A LIFE!
Get a BMW and a Rolex and be prepared to be no offered at the end of the summer.
You'll be left holding the bag for $150,000 student loan debt, $30,000 for the BMW and $10,000 for the Rolex.
Have fun.
If I were him I'd be a lot more concerned about the size of my wife.
I'm surprised there hasn't been some sort of mob beatdown of this bar failing Latham partner's son by the laid off Latham first years who actually passed. That has got to sting.
@13
Orvis watches. Understated taste.
This is douche baggery. I'm sure daddy paid for the damn BMW so just say so.
This is the dumbest concern I've heard. Going to work in a 4 year old car? Who cares what you drive? Another reason why I look down on flyover country high atop my Manhattan apartment, which probably is smaller than this schmuck's walk-in closet. Get outta my dreams AND GET A LIFE!
YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME. There is NOTHING impressive about a 4-year old 3-Series. LOL!
a 2005 bmw (probably a 3 series) is not really that expensive of a car. used-- its similar to driving an acura or even a honda. nor are they particularly flashy.
it would probably cost you more to sell the car, and buy an altima or something, so don't bother. BMWs are great cars, and not terribly out of place at a law firm.
i would just keep it. anyway, people who look at cars as status symbols are stupid.
My question is, does anyone at Latham NY actually respect the bar failing Latham partner's son? Does anyone believe he actually earned his spot at Latham? I'm not saying he did and I'm not saying he didn't, but the guy was the only Latham NY bar failure who didn't lose his job. It's a tough pill to swallow to accept that this guy was better than the 28 Latham NY first years who passed who got shitcanned.
I think Latham's silence on the bar failing daddy's boy matter pretty much says it all.
im curious to see what PE has to say about this.
PE, please weigh in.
ATL,
I'm worried about my firm. Oceans are starting to rise and cities are beginning to fall. I'm unsure about whether or not I will remain. What should I do?
Q
ATL,
I'm worried about my firm. Oceans are starting to rise and cities are beginning to fall. I'm unsure about whether or not I will remain. What should I do?
Q
If this bar failing Latham NY daddy's boy works really hard at riding pop's coattails, the sky's the limit. Hell, he could be the next GW Bush one day.
"I strenuously advise against this since pickups indicate that spend your free time listening to Toby Keith while patrolling the Mexico border with a rifle and Coonhound named Rusty."
So racist and a disgusting NY big city bias toward the country-folk who are the backbone of this nation. We should be building a wall along the Mexican border, 50 feet high with electric barbed wire. I can't even imagine the argument against this eminently sane solution, what with human trafficking, drugs and Mexican gangs operating in 210 or so American cities. I'd love to hear it.
3, 22, 26, 32, & 33 -
Get Over It. Time To Move On. Either name names or STFU (or at least get an avatar so that I can easily skip your whining posts).
Latham Partner (West Coast)
34 = PE
I'm assuming the letter writer is not a native Texan.
I really wouldn't stress about it. Sure it's a nicer car than a lot of people have, but it's a 2005 and there's plenty of "legit" reasons why you'd have it. It's not like once the recession hit, everybody driving a nice car downgraded to a Kia. You're driving whatever you were driving before, even if you got layed off (unless you stop making your payments, if you got them).
MORE IMPORTANTLY, I wouldn't stress about it because Texas doesn't have a strong vehicle-oriented culture like L.A. and Miami do. Uber-wealthy folks in Texas drive old-*ss Cadillacs and if they drive a new one, it's because the old one gave up and they're keeping this one for a decade, too. They are way more concerned with large houses, hot wives and eating expensive steak.
Also, Marin, half of Texans drive trucks and it doesn't come off the way you say it is. It's part of the culture. Hot UT undergrad coeds, farm workers and big time lawyers drive nice trucks and it's no big deal in the big T.
-a Texan
"terra law firma"
Depending on what you are trying to say, you want some declension for lex-legis instead of "law".
Grade: B -
I drive a an 07 Infinity FX 35. I love the thing.
*laid off
-41.
Nobody cares about Texas, or their 3500 sq ft wives, or that they think Dallas is classy.
Ps: Nobody cares about Texas.
damn, a 3500 sq ft wife!!!
I drive a Mystal. Built for comfort.
Nobody sees you driving in & out of the parking garage anyways, loser.
The brave men and women who patrol our border deserve praise, not mockery.
Nobody sees you driving in & out of the parking garage anyways, loser.
39.
Not until I get a job of equal or greater value. You "get over it" people are unrealistic. I'm sitting around and I'm supposed to just get over Latham screwing me over while keeping around some bar failing little daddy's boy?
Uh, no.
Why are Texans so fat? There is no way they could fit in a BMW. Chevy Astrovan, maybe, but not a BMW.
38 - hicks = scum sry
In Texas every third person drives a truck so no, you don't convey that you're a Minuteman if you own one. It's not that unusual, and wouldn't be remarked upon.
mwe lays off 30.
My advise to those who want to make a statement with the vehicle they drive would be to build their own replica of the Coyote X from Hardcastle and McCormick. The later version of the car was based on the De Lorean DMC-12. But if you really want to show how classy you are, you will want a replica of the original, season one, Coyote X, which was a Manta Montage/McLaren M6BGT build-out.
Mystal = Lincoln Towncar
Anybody interesting in trading my beat up Mystal with a lot of miles but with a roomy trunk for pocket change?
Dear 35, if nobody cares about Texas why is there a new Texas post almost every day?
Deal with it, we own and dominate this damn country!!
Poor (literally) jealous yankees.....
51 -
Trolling the comment boards of ATL is a great way to "get a job of equal or greater value." And you wonder why you laid-off.
LP(WC)
41 is right on the money.
Marin's advice here is absolutely awful... Texas lawyers often love talking about cars and I don't think anyone would care about you having a BMW. If you rented something solely for that reason, THEN it would negatively affect you if anyone found out.
Stick with your ride and have a good summer.
Everyone in Texas has Texas Big AIDS or Swine Flu.
"To say your car is an important status symbol severely underestimates the car's central importance to American culture."
That's the kind of writing I tune in for.
Am I gay if drive around in a VW Bug, festooned with rainbows?
64 - Only when your queer lover is with you.
@13
Vacheron Constantin Jubilee 1755, yellow gold.
Unless his imaginary wife is a picture/poster (2 dimensional), I believe said imaginary wife's size should be measured in cubic feet (i.e. 3 dimensional as in his inflatable love mate).
Anybody seen Rogue Assoc?
41 - you obviously have never lived in Dallas. It's by far the most pretentious, materialistic, image-obsessed place in the South, and that includes cars. I miss Austin.
- Dallas Summer Associate.
Why so much hate for Texas? Is it because of the Mexican Pig Flu thing?
68
It would appear that TTThompson Hine had a more effective IT department than he thought in tracking postings to ATL.
I like to go swimming in the water around Houston.
Dallas summer associate knows of what they speak. Anyone who thinks Texas "doesn't have a strong car culture" is sadly mistaken. The inquirer likely wanted to know if he'd be mocked for not driving a nicer car. Dallas didn't start the trend of 30k millionaires for nothing.
@ 13
a 1966 Rolex Explorer.
41
Dallas is a good place to find a big breasted blonde (2400 sq ft.) who will marry you for your money.
@13, Ladies Gold Raymond Weil, Mother of Pearl and inlaid daimond face.
@13, Ladies Gold Raymond Weil, Mother of Pearl and inlaid daimond face.
@13, Ladies Gold Raymond Weil, Mother of Pearl and inlaid daimond face.
What's the difference between a BMW and a porcupine?
I use my father's pocket watch that his friend from Vietnam gave me when I was a child.
13 (watch guy) here -- I just got myself a new Rolex Submariner - Date. It looks real good.
80,
Did your father's friend tell you that the watch was stuck up his ass the whole time in 'Nam? I'm sure he did.
13
Gold plated 2006 Fossil watch.
I have a giant sundial on a chain hanging from my neck.
Suck it.
fuck your rolexes... ill sport my Panerai.
fuck your rolexes... ill sport my Panerai.
Dallas blows. It's full of 25-year-old daddy's boys who aspire to live in Highland Park, drive a late-model 3-series, wear cowboys boots with suits, and think the idea of a pick-up line involves the words "steak dinner." Freaking losers.
69 - Been there once. I hail from the Austin area myself.
A resume from a laid off Latham 1st year landed on my desk today but I remembered all their whiny posts here and just tossed it.
if its not an ///M , it doesn't matter
///M Stud
Texas? Only Steers and Queers come from Texas. Don't believe me look at 3,500 sq. ft. wife (steer) and I will let you fill in the rest about the queers.
Breitling Crosswind
Texas? Only Steers and Queers come from Texas. Don't believe me look at 3,500 sq. ft. wife (steer) and I will let you fill in the rest about the queers.
Breitling Crosswind
73 is correct. Dallas boasts the highest average car note per person in the United States.
well this sucks. I'm an engineer right now making a solid income and drive a new p-car. does that mean next year when i become a summer intern i suddenly have to lease an accord to appease the low self-esteem trolls and prevent a dick swinging contest?
since when did we start punishing the hardworking and the successful?
@13 -
Classic Casio (Black casual). $11.50 off ebay.
No 94, it means you are not making a good business decision by fouling up your eng. degree with a j.d. and your basic Cayman /Boxter S is not tight
///M Stud that destroys P-car
@96
lol... 'fouling up' my engineering degree with a jd. At the rate the job market is deteriorating, i couldn't agree with you more = )
*shrug* at least i still have a roof over my head and no student loans.
Oh, and a Turbo p-car DESTROYS the ///M (trust me, had one and now the other)
97
True, turbo P - FTW
My cl says your m is for girls...
It is illegal to lease a car in ny? Really?
I have a purple Miata with 5 NOS tanks.
Suck it.
Don't be a fool, no one cares about you or your car
I have a gold 96 Mazda 626 with mud flaps.
Suck it.
The more successful and well off you appear to be, the more attractive you will be to the firm's partners who, unlike the associates you may threaten, will decide if you get the nod.
If you live in a 3,500 square foot home and drive a 2005 Beemer so be it; that is who you are.
BTW, beamers are kind of what-to-be, so you might want to go to a Porsche (any year if well maintained and clean has the same élan) or a Mercedes.
If you are really of that, make sure you invite a partner to your tennis club or over to the house for a drink.
Word will get around to the hiring partners that you are rainmaking material now problem.
Extra points if you mom or dad is on the board of and/or owns 5% or more of the common stock of a publicly traded corporation.
I think we need more facts. Specifically, are we talking on the cell phone while we drive into the garage and if so, is it hands free or not?
@100
Yes. That's why they have something called the "smart buy" in NY that is very much like a leasing program. But they can't call it a lease.
69 has it head on.
- Dallas in-house atty