Memo to the New York Times: NY Law School is not NYU Law School
Times are tough for the paper that gives us all the news that’s fit to print, so we almost feel badly about calling the old girl out on this. But it is the New York Times after all.
The paper recently mentioned NYLS-grad-turned-cupcake-entrepreneur Lev Ekster, who’s gotten lots of attention from us, as well as from other media outlets. But this recent article on the vendor truck turf wars incorrectly states that Lev is an NYU Law grad. Here’s a screenshot:
The NYT is not the first to make this mistake. When Thrillist first broke the cupcake story in mid-May, it made the same mistake, since corrected. We all make mistakes, but we’d like to try to prevent the MSM making this one in the future. Here’s our memo (with love):
To: The New York Times and other media outlets
From: Above The Law
Re: New York Law School vs. New York University Law School
New York Law School is not New York University Law School.
NYLS is in Tribeca. NYU Law is in Greenwich Village.
NYLS has 2 Girls 1 Dress. NYU has Arthur Miller.
NYU Law is ranked the fifth best law school in the land. NYLS is ranked.
Turf War at the Hot Dog Cart [New York Times]
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everyone makes this mistake all the time.
Firsty McFirsterton
post nothing next time. you've just wasted my time + now i've just wasted my time.
I don't see what the problem is. I just wish that NYU would stop calling itself by two slightly different names. It makes them harder to pick on.
~CLS 2L
this is newsworthy. stories like this are the reason why people are leaving ATL
Does Above the Law have such an interest in maintaining the distinction that it has spent time sending a letter to the New York Times? Very weird for a media outlet to be sending a correction to another media outlet about a fact that doesn't concern them.
it's not like there is a big enough difference between the two to care. this is stupid. poop.
The silence is deafening. When will Kash admit or deny that she is a multimillionaire?
Hey, I know of a federal court of appeals judge who made the same mistake and hired a clerk from NYLS thinking he was a NYU grad. It was pretty awkward when the judge found out what was what.
Kash, I want a refund on the 10 seconds of my life that I spent reading this worthless post...
ummmmmm, ATL calling out another news publication for typos/misstatements?
coincidence that Elie didn't write this one?
Can't even maintain consistency with a basic press release. Why switch NYLS and NYU in the last line? See below.
# New York Law School is not New York University Law School.
# NYLS is in Tribeca. NYU Law is in Greenwich Village.
# NYLS has 2 Girls 1 Dress. NYU has Arthur Miller.
# NYU Law is ranked the fifth best law school in the land. NYLS is ranked.
....but ATL never makes typos. unbelievably lame post.
typo?
oh noes!
sweet lord. don't get the nyu students riled up. they might hijack a cafeteria or something.
Really Kash - you get paid to write stories like this. I wish I was you. (Granted- being that you are quite attractive - I would probably touch myself a lot more if I was you).
You can do better than this
Don't even think about making that mistake in Judge Judy's court!!
9, that put a smile on my face
It is a mistake that comes up in the US News rankings of part-time programs. Because NYU is not listed, NYLS is ranked very highly -- obviously people are confusing the two. In the full-time rankings, where both NYU and NYLS are listed, NYLS is ranked all the way down in the third tier. There really can be no other explanation for this discrepancy.
lame
It is a mistake that comes up in the US News rankings of part-time programs. Because NYU is not listed, NYLS is ranked very highly -- obviously people are confusing the two. In the full-time rankings, where both NYU and NYLS are listed, NYLS is ranked all the way down in the third tier. There really can be no other explanation for this discrepancy.
Intelligent people stopped reading the New York TTTimes about 15 years ago when they realized it's just a mouthpiece for the left-wing of the Democrat party.
21-
There's no such thing as "all the way down in the third tier." The third tier is organized alphabetically because UNS&WR doesn't bother to rank past the first two tiers.
Read the damned magazine.
22 = sarah palin
The New Math:
9 = 18 and NYULS = NYLS of Hoboken
Who gives a shit.
Wow, the pinnacle of ATL snobbery. No one outside of the legal community knows or cares about the difference between NYU Law and NY Law (newspapers, including the NY Times regularly make them). It's a typo, get over it.
A TTT is a TTT. Can we move on please
sorry, weren't you a paralegal or something? maybe you should go to law school before you make fun of one?
also, i agree that the diff bt nyu and nyls isn't enough that anyone really gives a crap.
I can only imagine how those NYT goofballs would botch a story about UPenn State Grads (what with their campuses in both Philly AND Dickinson).
why would a blog email a newspaper about a mistake that has NOTHING to do with them? wow, this site is going downhill, fast. people outside of law often don't know the difference.
Seriously? I am amazed by the typos on THIS site in every single post. Why do I waste my time...
I figured it out. you write completely idiotic posts so that I click the comments link, give you one more pageview, and tell you you're an idiot.
Seriously? I am amazed by the typos on THIS site in every single post. Why do I waste my time...
I hope that is a true story #9!
Clearly, Kash has been waiting for an opportunity to bash NYLS, and the NY Times gave her the opportunity. This is truly sad and pathetic because the students at NYLS work just as hard, and are just as smart, as those who attend NYU Law. It is a proven fact that the top 50% of NYLS students would be just as successful at NYU Law. Why people feel the need to impugn any hard working students at any school is beyond me. C'mon, like President Obama said, we're all in this together. Let's support each other.
12 you are an idiot. Obviously the rhetorical effect would not be the same in reverse. The editing on this blog is absolutely miserable, but that is not an example.
33 -- Shit, you're right. It worked on me too.
there is no difference, they both suck.
6 & 31. You wouldn't know a subtle plan if it painted itself purple and danced on your nose singing 'subtle plans are here again."
--Blackadder
Posting this took some serious balls, ATL. I don't mean that in a good way.
Posting this took some serious balls, ATL. I don't mean that in a good way.
36--This is truly sad and pathetic because the students at NYLS work just as hard, and are just as smart, as those who attend NYU Law. It is a proven fact that the top 50% of NYLS students would be just as successful at NYU Law.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
(this is funny, and i'm not even NYU)
36--This is truly sad and pathetic because the students at NYLS work just as hard, and are just as smart, as those who attend NYU Law. It is a proven fact that the top 50% of NYLS students would be just as successful at NYU Law.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
(this is funny, and i'm not even NYU)
"It is a proven fact that the top 50% of NYLS students would be just as successful at NYU Law."
Yeah, they wont get jobs graduating at the top half of NYLS, and they won't get jobs graduating at the bottom of NYU.
Elie at 40,
Your quotation marks don't agree. The " ' " is used when you're quoting within a quote. Thus, your opening quotation mark should've been " " ".
- Someone with basic editing skills
I know this is supposedly tongue-in-cheek, Kash, but the compulsion of law students from the T14 or so to constantly attempt to distinguish themselves in laymen's eyes is real - and it's pathetic, and embarrassing. It shows itself when it comes to places like Penn, Virginia, Michigan, and Chicago where your average jim doesn't necessarily recognize the "prestige" attached to the law schools. This frustration manifests itself in a kneejerk desire to set anyone straight who wouldn't be able to recognize the maxi-acronym HYSCCNMVPBCNDG. If these clowns had their way I'm sure the NYT would print a full retraction along with the full list of the USNWR rankings just so everyone is forced to know where everyone stands.
36 - flame on, Garth!
40,
Just got it, Elie, but I think it was too subtle. It will probably have the opposite effect.
-6
36 is right.
Everyone knows the top students at NYLS are just as good as the NYU students.
Just like how the top NYU students are "just as good as" CLS, who are "just as good as" HYS students.
"We don't feel good about our existence unless we shit on others."
The ATL poster model.
Carry on.
Elie,
What High School did you attend and what were your SAT and LSAT scores?
First to say the NYT is the mouthpiece of flaming, douchetard, pansy-faced liberalism?
Or does everyone already know that?
Would The One bailout the NYT? Or perhaps he has already taken them over like Government Motors and is editing their stories? Of course, we'd never be able to recognize the difference in content if he has.
Northeastern always spends half an hour during orientation warning 1L's against "accidentally" saying they are Northwestern students.
ok, i read this blog daily and i am officially on the side of the whiners who bitch and moan day in and day out about how lame this blog has gotten. I mean, really????? who fucking cares except retarded, narcissistic rankings hounds who have no real clue how the real world actually works??? Geez.
Another elitist blog post
You know a lot of NYLS students were hoping some law firms would make the same mistake that the NYT did -- now you have dashed their dreams for employment.
43/44 You are a disgrace. I can only assume you are a repug as you seem to elevate rankings and achievement over equality. Your elitism is nauseating. Anyone who graduates from NYU Law or NYLS is a lawyer, period. They are equal and they should be treated equal and are equally entitled to a Biglaw job. I joyfully await the day when the DOJ and ABA prohibit law firms from inquiring about the law school one attended and the law school grades "earned". Neither is relevant to success in the practice of law.
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New York TTTimes
---WSJ Reader
I have two people working for me. One picks up my dry cleaning and makes appointments. The other cleans my house and has a giant ass lobster. One went to NYULS and the other went to NYLS, but I forget who went where.
I have two people working for me. One picks up my dry cleaning and makes appointments. The other cleans my house and has a giant ass lobster. One went to NYULS and the other went to NYLS, but I forget who went where.
I'm hoping to get a summer associate job because of this mistake.
I'm hoping to get a summer associate job because of this mistake.
I'm hoping to get a summer associate job because of this mistake.
52,
I am assuming that you're the same bad ass who constantly requests this information. What are you so insecure about that you feel like you need to attack another's experience and abilities?
Why don't you post your name, number, address, neighborhood you grew up in, schools you attended, parental income, and scores on every single standardized exam you ever took? Then maybe Elie will help you bandage your insecurities by letting you compare yourself to him.
When you die, I hope they engrave your life's worth and accomplishments ( i.e. your standardized test scores) on your tombstone.
62/63,
Asslobster = NYU
First to say 53 masturbates to Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity.
47 nailed it, at least so far as Penn is concerned. The defining characteristics of penn law students : desperately wanted to go to HYS or a NY school, but couldn't; spend the rest of their days trying to validate themselves to everyone around them. Worse than the short man's complex.
Kash -- why do you care? You didn't go to law school anyway. Why bash someone for attending NYLS? You are such a b*tch.
30 - Penn State has three law school campuses: Philly, Dickinson and State College. For some reason Philly is ranked separate from the other two in the USNWR.
69,
I do. And it's great.
But that doesn't make my statement untrue.
53
The ABA should require all law schools to engage in blind admissions. For example, if there are 125 seats at HLS, a lottery should be held for these seats for anyone who has a college degree (ditch LSAT, GPA, etc.--irrelevant to success) Set aside 20% for Hispanics, 30% for African Americans, 40% for Whites, 5% for Asians and 5% for remainder. All classes at HLS would be Pass/Complete. I would bet that the graduating class would be just as successful as any class graduating today under so-called merit based admissions.
53 / 73,
It's your spoon-fed opinion. Whether or not it's true is not really that important. You want it to be true, so it is. There.
69
Are you seriously bashing NYLS's professors?
NYLS has Seth Harris (Deputy Sec. of US Dept of Labor), Beth Noveck (Deputy Chief Technology Officer), Annette Gordon Reed ('09 Pulitzer Prize Winner), Nadine Stossen (Former ACLU President), Sadiq Reza (Carnegie Scholar). . . . .
! ! !
NYLS is to NYU as Suffolk Law is to Northeastern Law
Mystal is the SMU of law blogs.
77 has it backwards - NYLS is to NYU as Northeastern is to Suffolk. Just see who has more pull in Boston.
unemployed NUSL '07
No one cares about Boston.
Employed UB '09
Honestly, if you're not in the top 10% at NYU, you might as well be at NYLS.
- v50 Partner getting ready for on-campus interviewing in what will be a very bad autumn for a lot of students
Aren't the differences pretty much moot since NYU Law & NYLS are merging next year?
Wait,
This b*tch didn't even go to law school? Then why is she writing on a legal blog?
Affirmative action?
"Really Kash - you get paid to write stories like this. I wish I was you. (Granted- being that you are quite attractive - I would probably touch myself a lot more if I was you).
You can do better than this"
Wish I WERE you, you imbecile. God damn it. You are all fucking embarrassments to the legal profession.
16 - 84 was to you. You pitiful excuse for someone with an advanced degree. I hope you die.
Please remember: Kash and her ass lobster are now a part of pop culture. http://ideas.theatlantic.com/2009/06/nap_at_work.php
30 - UPenn and Penn State are TWO DIFFERENT SCHOOLS!!!!
WHY CAN'T ANYONE COMPREHEND THIS???
#3: I completely agree
what the fuck?
have you run out of shit to write on?
I'm surprised you didn't pass out from boredom writing this article because I almost did from just scanning the beginning of this article
I think my dog just farted. I can smell it all the way up here in the loft.
goddammit.
www.lawshucks.com/laidoffdiary
87 - they are both part pf the Penn State University system, so technically the same school. I know there are some historical reasons why UPenn State Philly is treated differently from the other campuses (see for example the US News rankings), but this does not detract from the fact that it is one school.
It's no different from the two business schools within the Penn State system - Smeal and Warden.
Kash, where did you get your Juris Doctor degree?
"feel badly"
It's "feel bad." Like "feel sleepy." It's an adjective complement.
rhhardin
The best example of NYLS and NYU fraud to reach the Windy City occurred in 2001 or 2002 when an attorney with the SEC who graduated from New York Law School circulated a false and doctored transcript to many leading firms in Chicago in which he had photo shopped the header of an NYU transcript on the top of the first page. Astonishingly (a) if caught the eye of only one leading Recruting Coordinator in Chicago (b) the firm did not turn the lawyer into the disciplinary committee of trhe state where he was admitted (c) the firm did not turn him into the SEC. For 2 box seats lower deck to a Bears game this Fall please guess why the firm did not do this.
59, please tell me you are flame. If not, you were awarded no points and may god have mercy on your soul.
In Chicago the media constantly confuse "University of Chicago" with "University of Illinois at Chicago." And sometimes "Chicago State University."
BIG differences.
#9- which court of appeals are you talking about? That is hilarious!
#9: His name is Sotomayor.
#95: His name is Sotomayor.
NO ONE CARES! ATL SUCKS
#97...there isn't a male Sotomayor federal appellate judge, am I wrong?
#99: I'm pretty sure there is ONLY a male Sotomayor. The guy Obama just nominated, right?
This guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonia_Sotomayor
I don't know, but I assume Sonia is a male's name in Spanish. It's definitely a guy though.
#100...I admit Sonia is kinda rough-lookin....but I wouldn't classify her as a man....
I agree with 37 - it's switched in the last sentence for rhetorical effect. 12 is an idiot.
However, agree with 91 as well: "bad," not "badly."
92 - "Recruting Coordinator in Chicago" = NYLS Alum?
The only rating I would take into consideration these days, would be which school has better looking women. I went to neither, but there's far more talent in that department at NYLS
The only rating I would take into consideration these days, would be which school has better looking women. I went to neither, but there's far more talent in that department at NYLS
No, Kash did NOT go to law school.
She was a paralegal for Covington so she thinks she can blog about this sh*t.
What a b*tch. I hope I run into her when she is running along the East River in the morning so I can give her a piece of my mind.
103: YES.
104-105: NYLS student.
103: YES.
104-105: NYLS student / Columbia troll.
The one distinction that this article missed:
One NYLS alumni was a justice of SCOTUS. No NYU alumni has ever been a justice of SCOTUS.
Also, 104-105 is 100% correct, and the women of NYLS are notoriously loose. TRUST ME
109 = 104-105 = NYLS or CLS student
BC is to Harvard as NYSL is to NYU
92 - Managing Partner is NYLS Grad
111 - not right. It is BU is to BC as NYSL is to NYU
Hardy har har. ATL is finally revealed as the circle jerk it has always been. Do you fellows enjoy masturbating each other?