second

... oh what the hell, third.

second

third bitches

I lied, jobs died. But this isn't about me. I have great health insurance.

I'm Barack Obama?

schfourteen-teen!

SFW.
As long as you are black, you will get a job.

BHO

Where are the jobs President Obama? While he's worried about healthcare for all Americans, even those that don't want it, I'm worried about paying my rent.

Disgusted Black Voter
(Black Citizens United Against Obama)

Are you good with your hands? There is ALWAYS plenty of work in Morningside Heights.

Obama is more interested in having a photo op at the White House with Prof. Gates and the Cambridge cop than solving our out of control unemployment rate and collapsing economy.

Take off your pants and jacket!

Will Brobeck be interviewing 3Ls at Suffolk?

I need to get something off of my chest.

PE -- Your mom should have swallowed you.

Whew, much better.

How you like me now?

I find it so funny you all are turning on your messiah just cause he's a communist like he wrote about in his books...i'd venture to say 2/3 of ATLers voted for him...

In defense of Mr. Obama, the cash for clunkers thing seems to be working well. Now if you'll excuse me, I just got another e-mail from the White House telling me why health care should matter to me...

Wow. I can only imagine how helpful THIS thread is going to be...

Health care matters when you don't have a job.

If you're too stupid to understand that, I foresee a long and difficult search for a job that you qualify for, like Nassau County sanitation worker (thanks to your union uncle).

17,

Who cares about "Cash for Clunkers." How about cash in my hand!!!!

17,

Who cares about "Cash for Clunkers?" How about cash in my hand!!!!

Phillies get Cliff Lee

The Dow is down.
Law firms will continue to retrench.
The demand for legal services will
not increase until second quarter 2010.

Vedder Price has cancelled their entire summer program per Notre Dame's CSO.

Most firms have canceled all Boston school OCI's due to the rampant sharting of the women living in that city. Its distracting, distastefull, and completely disgusting.

J Chiles Esq

Vedder Price has cancelled their entire summer program per Notre Dame's CSO.

Why can't an economy that was toppled by years and years of irresponsibility and greed, from both the federal government and the corporations it sheltered and served, be fixed in 6 months? BOOOOOO PRESIDENT OBAMA, BOO YOU. THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT. EVERYTHING WAS GOING GREAT UNTIL
YOU TOOK OFFICE

-Person Who Shouldn't be Allowed to Reproduce Because He's Thinning the Gene Pool

(Dipshit Morons Who Don't Understand the Next Goddamn thing about the Economy Against Obama)

Obama did not create the credit crisis. I am however, underwhelmed and frightened by the out of control train wreck of a response. You can't just double your money circulation and triple your deficit all willy nilly. You need a plan. What is the plan? I mean can somebody explain it to me? What did the trillion dollars go for? Excuse me, I have to run. A headhunter is calling me about a great new "green" job. Something about cutting my neighbors lawn.

Dear President Obama:

My employer has informed me that if your healthcare plan is adopted, he will be forced to close his business as a result of the higher premiums he will have to pay and leave me unemployed. If I wanted free healthcare, I would have moved to Cuba or Venezuela. I am not a communist. I would rather keep my job than have universal free healthcare.

29

That's OK. You can have both -- no job and no health care.

20/21 = Glenn Beck (but way more clever and without the racism)

If you employer cannot figure out how to provide health benefits and lets its employees suck of the public teat, maybe the country is better off without it. It will only benefit your employer's responsible competitors.

Please people, stop sucking on Rush Limbaugh's fat, greasy tits and wise up to what's going on around here. Obama can't solve the ecomonic crisis put in motion by post-Reagan Republicans with some grand executive decree.

Did anyone in their right mind think that firms were going to OCI to recruit THIRD YEARS? Because in that case, the candidate is too dumb to get hired in the first place.

Oh, wait! Let's hire another new hire that we won't need in a year and are trying to find every way of deferring indefinitely or having them decline employment.

dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb.

Bradley Arant Boult Cummings lays of 35 staff

http://blog.al.com/businessnews/2009/07/bradley_arant_lays_off_35_staf.html

As long as people worship at the altar of Rush, Michelle Malkin, Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck, and Lou Dobbs, the Republican party will continue in its death spiral to oblivion.

Stupidity is not a prescription for long-term success, son.

29 that makes no sense. You're employer would just stop providing insurance and everyone would be on the government plan. It would actually be cheaper for him since he wouldn't be paying into a plan. You are getting fired for being stupid.

@28 - Oh, there IS a plan...

If you think that healthcare is expensive now, just wait until it is "free"

35
What's a Bradley Arant?

One of those make work firms where your lips are constantly dry because all you do is lick envelopes containing attack literature on health care and questioning Barack Obama's birth certificate?

Where is OBAMA's birth certificate?!

My grandfather fought in WWII for our freedom. It is not right that someone born in Mombassa, Kenya should be President of the United States of America.

I don't want our country to be communist. Neither does not my grandfather who is now dead.

You are correct 33. Which is why we should get that trillion back from the stimulus package. Just saying it makes me cringe. One trillion and I can't identify one sustainable program that came out of it. Now we are talking about health care for all? With I had an extra trillion to pay for that. Oh, and Washington Post or somebody had 8 points released by Obama saying why the health care plan is good for the insured. Every one of those points will cause costs to sky rocket for those with insurance. None of them went to controlling costs. They just identified costs that will have to be borne by the insurance company. The funny thing about commerce though is that those businesses just don't eat those costs. I know, it sounds silly but they pass them on to me and you.

Barrack Obama=America's Trojan Horse

41

Squeeze the mofos that enjoyed prosperity in the last 25 years with Eisenhower tax rates approaching 90 percent for the top earners.

Increase taxes on gasoline at the pumps over a ten year period.

Impose taxes on gold plated health care plans.

Problem solved re: paying for health care.

40

I have a question.

I don't believe that you were born in the United States. Can YOU show me your birth certificate? Will you post it publicly?

Even if you do, I won't believe that you're an American citizen and will believe that anything you say is irrelevant to American politics.

My ancestors came here on the Mayflower, so go fuck yourself, you self-addled twit.

43 - sounds good so not only are the premiums going to sky rocket we are also going to get taxed into oblivion. I wish when I was young and they told me about the american dream they included that part about once you become a success everyone is entitled to resent you and take what you have until you end up back at their level.

@24 - Seriously?

I'll admit it. I voted for Obama (mostly thanks to Palin, which still makes me giggle) and I think his health care plan is seriously lacking.

BUT . . . the current economic climate is in no way Obama's fault. Some of the most brilliant minds in finance advised him on his recovery package. Even the sane Republicans agreed it was necessary. Now we can only watch and pray that deregulation and Reaganomics didn't completely crush America.

45

I guess America was a poverty rife basket case in the 1950s under Eisenhower with all those tax rates?

Sometimes people are just too stupid. Republicans want everything back to the "rosy" 1950s where men were men and people of color were safely relegated to the back of the bus with an occasional token but refuse to pay the taxes that come along with the civic responsibilities.

You may rant, rave, and froth in the mouth, but fact remains that you refuse to be a responsible citizen and contribute anything of significance to the republic. You're a freeloader in the nicest way -- a bloodsucker feeding off everyone else.

Now, kindly, go fuck yourself. You ran the country to the ground in the last 20 years and we're now paying the piper.

48, why don't you get a clue and look at the real/effective tax rates back in the 1950s. First hint: the effective rates were around 22%, just like today. Second hint: there were a lot more deductions available back then. Can you deduct personal interest payments today?

Does anyone blaming this on Reaganomics remember Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac?

Apparently not.

I love how all the schools reassure students that these dropouts won't count against bid limits.

Funny, I thought this thread was supposed to be about OCI

48 - typical liberal talking point. Refer to opposition as wealthy racist pigs. How very enlightened of you. Here I thought I was a hardworking american trying to build a future for myself and my family. Thank you for correcting me and telling me I am actually a blood sucking (racist) freeloader. Glad we cleared that up.

Squeeze the top one percent (and that doesn't count 99 percent of us here).

And, 49, citing AEI "facts" doesnt bolster your arguments.

Maximum "effective" tax rates in, say, 1953, was 88 percent. Similar numbers over the decade.

http://www.taxfoundation.org/taxdata/show/151.html

Now kindly go fuck yourself and crawl under whatever rock you came from.

So that the comments can steer back to the point of this post and not all of your insane "brilliant" economic analysis and commentary, I have set up this thread for all of those that want to comment solely on the economy as opposed to what is going on with Fall Recruiting:

http://tiny.cc/qXNnD

Good day to you all.

Why can't the government just agree to pay a private insurance premium for anyone who qualifies based on low income status? That would still let private insurers compete for business and would keep the government from wrecking the private industry.

All of this bullshit about whether everyone should be insured is ancillary to the real issue of health care costs and coverage terms. Everyone is already basically guaranteed health care. The real questions that must be debated are:
1) Where should the funds come from to pay the premiums (society at large, states, medical industry, private insurance companies, HMOs, doctors)?
2) How can we reduce the cost of medical treatment?
3) What medical services should be included or excluded from basic social health care?

57- we can start talking about OCI as soon as Michael Ray Richardson shows up. He's usually good at beginning the discussion

53

Chances that YOU will make more than $250,000 in your lifetime approaches virtually zero.

You will not be one of the top one percent.

Most of it is due to inheritance and connections, both of which, you don't have because you are a peon (all Biglaw partners are peons) working for the man. You may be well off in BigLaw but you will always work for the corporations and the man.

Sucks to destroy your illusions but that's the fact of life, friendo.

i think 40 goes to regent law.

PE likes expensive scotch so much that he couldn't even remember that it's Johnnie Walker...

Here's hoping his ass fails the bar exam when the time comes. *clink*

I bought it from a n eg ro

Spalding

I work at PE's firm, Barkan Neff Handelman Meizlish, and let me tell you it's elite.

I was lucky enough line up a bunch of interviews for fall OCI. But a lot of people in my school weren't. My school had at least 10 firms drop out of hiring. One firm even rescinded offers. One of the offers was to a friend of mine who is a single mom. She has it real bad, I was just looking at this article, it must be even harder on single parent law students...

If you think Obamanomics is working, talk to someone who is not.

Waaaa, I'm a liberal and other people have stuff that I don't have. The only solution is to take it from them. When I was in kindergarten, I took toys from the other kids. It's not like they earned those toys when their parents gave it to them.

There were only 12 DC firms interviewing 3Ls at Georgetown this fall. I bid on all twelve. So far, 6 of those 12 have cancelled. Chances are pretty good I won't get a single interview. Disaster.

-54

You are an idiot. The effective rate, if you look at the tax shelters available in the 50-80's, was about 20%. That is the entire reason the AMT and the Passive Loss rules were created. Obama wants to raise rates and eliminated every deduction (and then add a Surtax). However, that still won't pay for some of these insanse health care proposals and the "work credit" -which is really just welfare. There will be a national sales tax within 5 years. We are becming Europe.

Tax Lawyer

Atleast Columbia allows students to replace the firm. My school doesn't. Nor does my school move up the list if that gap isn't filled. My list has more gaps in it than the Jackson case.

Too soon?

64=20 and 21. This guy is an oversimplified slogan machine!

54, please learn the difference between

1. the highest "effective" marginal tax rate. This was 88% in 1953, because there was the regular income tax with a highest marginal rate of 85% and a surtax of 3%. The Tax Foundation added those two together to get the rate.

2. the "effective" tax rate on income in the 1950s. This is not the same as the highest marginal rate, and it has always been around 20% for the highest earners, because they had a lot more deductions and shelters available in the 1950s.

A simple google search won't cure your retardation and teach you these subtly different concepts. Take your own advice to "kindly go fuck yourself and crawl under whatever rock you came from."

When the pimp's in the crib ma
Drop it like it's hot
Drop it like it's hot
Drop it like it's hot
When the pigs try to get at ya
Park it like it's hot
Park it like it's hot
Park it like it's hot
And if a bit** get a attitude
Pop it like it's hot
Pop it like it's hot
Pop it like it's hot
I got the Rolly on my arm and I'm pouring Chandon
And I roll the best weed cause I got it going on

Rush, Sean, Anne and Glen are just stooges for the Reaganomic Republican regime that deficit spent America into TTT world status. And Reaganomic Republicans are just the puppets for corporations and the wealthy elite, blinded by their lobbyist money.

Reaganomic Republicans try to convince everyone that deregulation and trickle down will help the lower 95% of America, knowing full well that it will only bleed them dry and further polarize wealth. The corporations and wealthy elite know full well that they will only fill their coffers with money made on your labor and use tax havens to hide it forever!

People, wise up. Don't forget why America abandoned a completely free market for regulated capitalism. The modern robber barons are among us.

67

Becoming Europe? Wow, that's a really bad thing.

Oh.

Well, it's better than a poverty stricken wasteland like Somalia where the power resides with the guns and khat and the central government is ignored (meaning that YOU would have no job, period).

I like to see the shortsightedness (I'm being polite here) of people.

May I recommend Jared Diamond's Collapse for what happens when societies become comprised of individuals who refuse to contribute to society.

68

Not too soon, not too soon at all

67

See also late imperial Rome and Spain and learn something about "overstretch" in pursuit of an intellectually incoherent philosophy.

Raising taxes is the only way to balance the books and grow the economy. Clinton did that and the 1990s just boomed. We cut taxes in the last decade and look where we are now.

Dumbass.

73, you're right, we should do something about the 40% of Americans who pay no (or even negative) federal income taxes.

As long as we are talking statistics, take a look at the difference between the top 1% in income and the top 1% in net worth. When we are talking about being rich in america it is not people making 250k a year. Particularly if they live in a major metropolitan area, have student loans etc. If we are going to wage class warfare let's at least have an honest debate about what it means to be "wealthy" in this country. I put 250k in NYC as upper middle class at best.

76

We're all ears for your suggestions on the below 40 percent.

Arbeit macht frei, anyone?

78, raising taxes apparently boosts the economy and makes people work harder, so I think we found a winning solution for the 40% freeloaders. It's only fair.

78 - Well done! The quickest way to win an argument = compare your opposition to the NAZIS!

Seriously?!

Another great liberal talking point - Clinton raising taxes was responsible for the economic boom of the 1990's. Taxes were raised and the economy was good ergo taxes are good for the economy. Taxes cut and economy bad ergo low taxes bad for economy. Two things happening at the same time do not create a causal relationship. How do you factor in that whole dawn of the modern technological era thing happening at the same time. You know, that thing Al Gore created? Coincidence, no effect, related or unrelated to taxes. If you think about it, GW Bush inherited a mess from Bill just like OB One inherited from GW Bush. The beginning of this past decade was rife with the collapse of the dot com boom which is not unlike the credit crisis in that it was built on an ignorance of brick and mortar fundamentals and an excess of speculation. Neither had much to do with the dude that occupied the whitehouse at the time.
Oh and for the sake of history, it was Newt Gingrich who balanced the budget. Remember the whole government shut down thing. Clinton fought it tooth and nail.

44 - You've been trolled.

- Not 40

78 & 80, meet Mike Godwin

Mr. Godwin, meet 78 & 80

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_Law

Nice to see that the Republicans are now engaging in the policy of hate against the lower 40 percent.

Can't wait till we have TVs from "1984" and we can all engage in hate against the lower 40 percent.

84, who said anything about Republicans and "hate"?

The liberal at 73 is the one who was hating on "individuals who refuse to contribute to society" (i.e., not paying taxes).

To #s 69 and 72 - The last time I looked Reagonomics worked (20 million new jobs, low unemployment, nonexistant inflation, not to say the dissolution of hte Soviet Union and its East Europe slave states). Obamanomics doesn't work or at least it hasn't so far. Perhaps you haven't traveled on business to Michigan, Ohio, California, Nevada and numerous other states with double-digit (and rising) unemployment rates. Perhaps you haven't gone to the Ohio town where 900 people applied for the job of a grade school janitor.

To #s 69 and 72 - The last time I looked Reagonomics worked (20 million new jobs, low unemployment, nonexistant inflation, not to say the dissolution of hte Soviet Union and its East Europe slave states). Obamanomics doesn't work or at least it hasn't so far. Perhaps you haven't traveled on business to Michigan, Ohio, California, Nevada and numerous other states with double-digit (and rising) unemployment rates. Perhaps you haven't gone to the Ohio town where 900 people applied for the job of a grade school janitor.

@ 25/26

Vedder Price is still interviewing at all Chicago Schools and U of I.

Brobeck, Phleger & Harrison just notified my school that they're no longer participating in OCI. Sucks. I was hoping to shadown John Larsen, but I guess I'll find another mentor.

--Suffolk 3L

http://www.morganlewis.com/index.cfm/personID/22B73D82-4A2F-4800-97F3-70B2BFCA09DF/fuseaction/people.viewBio

Jesus, there's more substantive OCI talk on XO.

(HTH?)

66 - That's not unusual. The number last year was similar, maybe slightly higher. I didn't have a lot to choose from and a couple of the ones on the list canceled. 3L recruiting is often iffy.

65 You are my hero.

i miss my oci thread :-(

Rising 2L at Vanderbilt: killself now or later?

i miss my oci thread :-(

Rising 2L at Vanderbilt: killself now or later?

94:

If you are top 1/3 you should be able to pull something in DC or Atlanta, otherwise, adios. Enjoy Chatanooga.

Listen up boys and girls.

Now is the time take your college education seriously, study hard and to try to get into a good law school. Because all the big law firms are lined up eagerly awaiting your graduation, so they can offer you a great start in a great career with a starting salary of $160k!!!

You heard it here first. ;)

IF YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHT OF WORKING IN BIGLAW

DROP IT LIKE ITS HOT

What's going on at KIRKLAND & ELLIS?

Is there a reason that all of the right wing trolls came out of the woodwork today? Did Rush command you all to descend on abovethelaw and post dribble about Barack Obama destroying the economy?

You heard it here for the 1,000th time: Barack Obama did not destroy the economy. Instead, he inherited an economy that was in trouble and shockingly with something as complex as the American economy it takes a while for any changes to have an impact. That's why we won't actually know when the recession is officially over until a few months after it ends, and similarly we didn't know when it began until a few months after it began.

Now--can we get back to the actual discussion of how I will not be getting a job next summer?

- NYU 2L

The ship be sinking...

To get S&C to interview 3L's at Columbia, Obama should cut taxes on S&C partners.

I've never understood why any firms interview 3Ls - traditionally, this has been the scrap heap of those who couldn't get summer jobs as 2Ls, those who were summer associates but who got no-offered or cold-offered, and those who thought they wanted to do "public interest" work then decided to chase a paycheck for a couple years before washing out of BigLaw.

In other words, they were all low percentage plays.

No, ATL, of course you won't do a play-by-play of firms dropping out of individual schools' OCI, unless of course that school is Duke.

I love you people lambasting liberals for stealing your money... Like everyone reading ATL isn't pulling down serious cash, or planning to. Say what you will, liberals (at least on this thread) are not hypocrites. Either way, which is the more reprehensible characteristic--a propensity to tax and spend, or insufferable greed and lack of empathy for sick, poor people?

Rising Cooley 2L representin'! All you T14 suckers are worried about your "BigLaw" firms cancelling, but guess how many of the firms I bid on have cancelled? None, out of three! Oh snap!

"Either way, which is the more reprehensible characteristic--a propensity to tax and spend, or insufferable greed and lack of empathy for sick, poor people?"

The former. A propensity to take other people's money and dole it out to those who the political class deem "more worthy" is much, much worse than the desire to accumulate and keep wealth from your own labor.

Empathy for the sick and the poor have nothing to do with liberalism. It is about wealth redistribution for the sake of "getting even" with and controlling the lives of America's producers.

107 - If it were only that simple. The wealthy are getting rich off OTHER peoples' labor. Once a country's major production assets are accumlated (as is now the case in America), the owners of those assets can perpetuate their ownership, leaving even the hardest workers as slaves to the property owners.

I'm not against capitalism, nor do I think all people must be economic equals, but your simplistic view is naive at best.

108 - This nation's "major production assets" are the ingenuity, education, hard work, and ambition of its people, you idiot.

And capitalism is simple. It's masterpiece plans and the "Great Society" that are complicated and inevitably destroy everything. Human beings are good at managing their own affairs. Human bureaucracies are terrible at managing the affairs of others.

I'm still waiting for Ropes to visit for 3l recruiting.

-Igornant Nesl student.

106 - I'd be jealous if I didn't pity you. Cooley?! I got admitted BEFORE I even took the LSAT!

105, there is a difference between taking money from someone, versus earning money from an employer who gives you money in exchange for your labor. You can earn money by hard work, try it sometime.

108, if you look at the Fortune 500, you'll see that they are almost all first-generation wealthy who did not own these "major production assets" one generation ago. Wealth is not a zero sum game. The non-wealthy mostly work for corporations and other businesses (sometimes indirectly), so they have their jobs thanks to the wealthy. Simple economics, learn it sometime.

I mean "Forbes 400."

109 - I beg to differ. Land is the primary production asset. Today, IP is also a major production asset, but it is still governed by real property. All the ingenuity, hard work, education and ambition of the people rarely displaces property owners. Property owners just employ those people, pay them a salary, and take the net production gain as compensation for utilizing their property. Capitalism, particularly pure unregulated capitalism, is far from simple. Not even your right-wing economists would agree with you.

And as to being an idiot, maybe I am. But not in the field of economics. And guess what, I'm not a liberal or a Democrat - just a realist.

When can we be like Europe? I like Europe. Let's see two months vacation, Monte Carlo, Amsterdam. relax baby.

109 - Are there no other social objectives other than maximum economic productivity? Like, if there's a baby drowning in a pool of water and a dollar bill floating nearby, do you go for the dollar bill and not the baby because it offers the greatest economic benefit to you?

For myself I'm willing to compromise some economic values in order to achieve social values. This isn't called socialism, this is called not being a complete douchebag and an asshole. Now go back to reading the Fountainhead for the 15th time.

116, are you willing to give $100 to save a baby? If so, why haven't you given all your money to Sally Struthers?

"For myself I'm willing to compromise some economic values in order to achieve social values."
Funny how liberals don't like it when conservatives try to impose on others their social values (like on abortion). Why don't you do what you do and let others do what they do with their life. You're free to voluntarily give more money to the IRS, so how many extra thousands of dollars in taxes did you pay above and beyond what was legally owed?

Yes, once IP became a form of fungible property the doors to wealth were opened to average Joes once again. However, for every Forbes 400 billionare their are thousands of IP developers working for those controlling America's assets. The tech boom merely created a new subset of property owners that will perpepuate their ownership and wealth by purchasing, employing, and squashing new tech start-ups as the indistry evolves. Same story, different era. Furthermore, the equity in America's tech sector is NOT just owned by Bill Gates and his IP genius counterparts that have made Forbes 400. Guess who ends up owning the majority of the tech sector equity.

117 - It would depend on if I knew the baby or not, how close I was to the situation and a million different other things. I have no fucking clue who the hell Sally Struthers is, so no I'm not giving her any money.

I don't give extra money to the IRS because I like to spend it on myself. I'm greedy that way. I like my cars and house, and I work hard to own them. I didn't say capitalism wasn't a good thing.

I don't think anyone likes having very specific social values imposed on them where it affects them in some personal or emotional way - abortion, gay marriage, school prayer, and other talking head issues like those.

But what about fairness? Or equality? Should we just not care about these things? If you think that results are inherently meritocratic, that is, the rich are richer only because they deserve to be, you are an idiot. The idea of a meritocracy is a joke, and the idea that capitalism will necessarily produce meritocratic results is idiotic. But hey, it's America, land of the free. If you're born on third base, you can believe you hit a triple all you like.

109/117 = same most likely

I honestly wish, just for a few years, America would go to a completely capitalistic free-market society. No taxes, no government, nothing to get in the way of your hard work and ingenuity. The modern Mr. Dupont, Rockefeller or Morgan would have your ass strapped to their factory line so fast your head would swim without "big brother" (who you despise so much) to protect you. You would quickly see how great it is to leave it all to the good will of the people and a free market. Or, you could just move to Somalia and see how it is working out.

119 - What is sad is that you think so many people who have done well in life were "born on third base." There are a few Kennedys scattered about the country, but most wealthy people in this nation got it through hard work, some native talent, innovation, etc. And most of them didn't go to Harvard or Yale either, they just came from normal backgrounds and went to middle-of-the-road schools (or skipped college altogether).

The America you are describing exists under different names in foreign countries all across the globe. In India or China you are born into a station in life that you can never escape. Continental Europe has some of this too. In the United States, such situations are rare.

How's this: You're free to take first base on a dropped third strike and get to third on a wild pitch and believe you've hit a triple. You'll still be a douchebag.

109? Were you the one you failed the doodoo law final at Yale?

"111: 106 - I'd be jealous if I didn't pity you. Cooley?! I got admitted BEFORE I even took the LSAT!"

Did you also apply to Michigan BEFORE you even took the LSAT?

Hahahahaha!

Class of 2010, you are so f**ked!

Jism all over. Cheers.

107, 105 here. The free market economy is excellent at generating wealth. It is terrible at distributing it so that people can get by. Screaming "wealth redistribution!" is a gross mischaracterization of modern liberalism, or at least the better strains of it. I believe healthcare is a human right. I believe Americans shouldn't go hungry, or homeless, or ill, when there's any feasible way to avoid it. I don't think everyone needs to be "even", I just think people who are trying to make ends meet (not including freeloaders) shouldn't go hungry or unmedicated. Now, these are basically moral stances, and there's no way to win an argument on values. I take it you believe that your right to earn unchecked by any sort of taxes or government interference should trump another person's right to not die of cancer because he can't afford radiation therapy. That's your prerogative, but at least have the balls to come out and say it rather than attacking me and my values with the latest Hannity sound bite. Frame the argument in an honest way, and have it out, or stop wasting everyone's time.

Does Kash even understand that for a firm to drop out of interviewing 3Ls is not a big deal whatsoever? If S&C stopped interviewing 2Ls at CLS, it would be huge, but given the state of affairs in the legal world, there is no absolutely, positively no reason for any biglaw firm to interview 3Ls at OCI this year.

114: THANK TY

I think Kash understands that very well; that is why she selected it as an example of these non-news "tips" they're getting lately. The Biglaw massacre/fire sale seems to be slowing down, to the disappointment of my schadenfreude.

I'm just amused that this thread about firms cancelling OCI interviews was completely hijacked by a debate about the merits of the free market.