Man...what was Rick Pittino thinking bringing those puppies to the library?

Not first.

Any word on whether the library staffer is liable under Kentucky's good samaritan law for reporting the gunman?

i hope you aren't trying to belittle this person

I've been to University of Louisville. If you're only walking in with two handguns, you're not packing enough heat.

The most sensible solution: Tighter restrictions on gun ownership.

":aw Library"?

So here was a guy that was going to do what the ABA refuses to do- reduce the number of new JDs flooding the market, and you applaud the people that stop him?

This would never happen at Florida Coastal.

Any connection to the K&L Gates IT guy? Because I heard aliens have begun invading people's heads. Just sayin . . .

Time-out. I thought Brandeis was in Boston.

Elie, is English your second language? If so, we understand your problems. Please show some progression in your studies.

Just another reason why I NEVER hung out in the library during law school.

I thought Plax was already in custody

Elie, no rhetoric about how the stress and burden of this guy's student loans (maybe?) caused him to arm himself and wander into the library? No babble about how the system is at fault for forcing him into a corner like this?

Seventeenth!!!

#4 FTW!!!!!

But seriously, was the would-be gun man black? If so, how does Elie feel about this??

1, Brandeis is an online school not eligible for ABA accreditation. However, it is accredited by the State Bar of Massachusetts, so rising 2L's take the 'baby bar' and are then eligible to keep studying if they pass; upon graduation, they can sit for the Massachusetts bar exam and may be able to eventually get into other jurisdictions by reciprocity.

18 - Look at the mugshot, linked in the story. Dude is not black. He is an androgynous non-trad weirdo.

19 ~ Epic Fail!

Brandeis is in Kentucky, not Massachussetts. If you're going to TTTroll joke at least get some facts right.

19 = 1

21, Brandeis is in Kentucky but is only accredited by the state bar of Massachusetts. People who want to practice law in Boston sometimes "slingshot" through Louisville.

23, I believe that's frequently called the "Salem Slingshot."

22 = 22

-Not 22

22 != 22

-- 22

12--

Brandeis University is in Boston, and is unrelated to Brandeis School of Law in Louisville.

He shows up to teh law library with two handguns and ammunition and all you do is escort him off campus???? FAIL

I am starting to see how the proliferation of law schools in America has contributed to our nation's economic woes. This week alone I read about Irvine, San Diego, La Verne, Moritz, the law school that the groom from that moronic wedding dance video is attending (the name escapes me), Brandeis Law and even confirmed the existence of Seton Hall law school. I am now starting to realize why this generation of attorneys is inferior to my time. When I went to law school, the applicant pool was richer and the average applicant was brighter. Nowadays, apparently all you need to get a law degree is a computer, keyboard, mouse and the ability to write a check that won't bounce (e.g., Concord Law). Happy days are here for idiots but for hard working pioneers like myself, I can only help but feel nostalgic about the golden age of law schools and the legal profession. That is all.

PE- you make me crack up everytime!!

GUNNER!

19 - the root joke is so old that it's starting to piss me off, but that made me lol.

*someone* got it.

30=29

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PE, Unless you're talking about the profusion of law schools back when you were a 1L in the 1800s, Louisville isn't part of the problem. It was founded in 1846.

This comment is addressed to post no. 35.

I was not aware that Brandeis Law was founded a full 10 years before the person it was named after was born. Perhaps the nutty professor from the back to the future movies used his delorean to time travel and erect Brandeis law knowing full well the name would be synonomous with legal jurisprudence.

PE,

Just as we've renamed the horseless carriage and the velocipede you encountered in your youth, the law school was renamed in 1997. The school houses Justice Brandeis' papers and is also the site at which his remains were placed.

35/37, if it's been around so long, why hasn't it been accredited yet? Is there some sort of scandal in its background? Or is it just because it's an online school? And how does an online school house papers, PDF?

This comment is addressed to post no. 37.

In my experience, the only time you rename anything is to get rid of the long stench and history of failure. It is my understanding that Louisville's law school has been renamed several times in its "rich" history. What is the school trying to get rid of or hide? Its history of being a non-top tier law school? Can we look forward to Louisville's law school being renamed the Burger/Rehnquist Law Center in the near future?

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Is that why you renamed yourself Partner Emeritus?

Awesome! Totally awesome! All right, law librarian!

@38. I'm assuming you're just joshing since nobody is that stupid. Look at the school logo. It's the law school of the University of Louisvllle. It's not an online school. It's named after Brandeis because he grew up there and is buried there (and probably because it sounds good).

PE, the way to stop sounding like an idiot is not to keep blathering. The school was only renamed the one time and is one of the oldest law schools in the country. It seems like a good switch since both Justice Brandeis and his wife are buried there.

Feel free to keep looking stupid, though.

42, oh, it's not online? Sorry, I thought it was Abraham Lincoln. But I'm confused-- if it's been around that long, why hasn't it received accreditation?

@20: I see no mug shot link. Please clarify.

44, part of ABA accreditation is that the school has to maintain a consistent identity. Brandeis School-- or whatever they're calling themselves this week-- constantly changes names to avoid negative publicity. I wouldn't be surprised if they change it again in a few weeks to move away from this incident. I believe even provisional status requires no name changes in the past five years.

43=FAIL. You are the idiot that is defending a TTT. Brandeis a/k/a Louisville Law School was also known as the Jefferson School of Law and before that it was just known as Louisville's Law Department.

47, wasn't it also known as YMCA Law, Murray's House of Law Learning, and Maker's Mark Law College of Law?

I read somewhere that in the early 1900s the Louisville Law School's administration toyed with the ideal of re-naming the school as "the Kentucky Legal Sanctuary for the Learned."

@47, you need to learn to read Wikipedia a little better. The Jefferson School of Law was a separate institution founded by local attorneys. It merged with the University of Louisville School of Law when it began having problems as a part-time school.

@46 I'm sorry, but you're confusing Louisville's law school, the Brandeis School of Law which, for better or worse has been ABA-approved since 1931 with some other joint.

49, that plan was scrapped when they were offered a corporate scholarship. I believe they were known for a brief period as the "Smith & Wesson School of Law & Marksmanship."

*sponsorship, not scholarship, 52. Understandable mistake, though, reading about Kentucky makes you stupid.

The school is officially the University of Louisville Louis D. Brandeis School of Law. It is fully accredited and is not an online school. The school was ranked #98 in the 2009 U.S. News rankings. It was re-named in honor of Justice Brandeis, a Louisville native, in 1997. The law school's name was changed from the Jefferson School of Law to the University of Louisville School of Law when the university acquired it. Senator Chris Dodd, D-Conn., is an alumnus.

54, I think we've established it's not an online school. But if it's fully accredited, why do its rising 2L's have to take the Kentucky Baby Bar and get admitted to other states by reciprocity? And wait, is it provisionally accredited in Massachusetts as well, or was the "Salem Slingshot" comment a joke?

27, Brandeis ain't in Boston. It's in Waltham, which is, like, a totally other city.

Wait, so the Brandeis in Waltham also isn't accredited by the ABA?

57, Brandeis in Waltham isn't a law school at all so ABA accreditation isn't relevant to it. Brandeis School of Law (as it's currently called) is a law school that, while not online, also isn't accredited by the ABA. I hope this answers your question.

I am deeply impressed that the Brandeis Trolls have kept the commenting going. Trolls FTW!

59, if it turns out that the trolls falsely claiming Brandeis is accredited were paid/encouraged to do so by the Brandeis administration, would it jeopardize their chances in becoming accredited? I am unaware of any rule that specifically covers that, but it seems shady.

60, I'm not sure, but it would appear that the students, at least, might have estoppel claims based on Section 90 of the Restatement (Second) of the Law of Contracts.

It may have also been against the rules of my previous educational establishments, but guys at my high school used to pretend their school was accredited all the time, it was no big deal.

59

Brandeis University is a separate institution with an non-accredited law school. The Brandeis School of Law is at the University of Louisville. It was renamed after Louis Brandeis because he was a Louisville native. It is a fully accredited institution and the 5th oldest continually operated law school in the country. Its graduates do not take the Massachusetts Baby Bar, most of them practice in Kentucky, Indiana, Ohio, or Tennessee.

The Louis D. Brandeis School of Law is the law school of the University of Louisville. Established in 1846, it is the oldest law school in Kentucky and the fifth oldest in the country in continuous operation. The law school is named after Justice Louis Dembitz Brandeis, who served on the Supreme Court of the United States and was the school's patron.

The school offers six dual-degree programs that allow students to earn an MBA, MSW, MA in humanities, M.Div., MA in political science, and MUP in urban planning while attaining their J.D..

The school’s law library contains 400,000 volumes as well as the papers of Louis D. Brandeis and John Marshall Harlan, both Supreme Court Justices and native Kentuckians. It is one of only thirteen Supreme Court repositories in the nation.

Additionally, the current Dean was Executive Editor of the Harvard Law Review, and served with his classmate Barack Obama while a law student at Harvard.

Louis Brandeis and his wife are buried on the law school's grounds and lay 50 yards away from an original Auguste Rodin statute The Thinker.
In addition to time and money, Brandeis also donated his personal papers, books, and pamphlets, numbering over 250,000 items. He was also instrumental in getting Supreme Court briefs and a collection of Justice John Marshall Harlan’s papers deposited in the law school library.

And for the morons on here who clearly can't read a map (no idea how you graduated law school), Louisville is not in Mass. and is not affiliated with Brandies University.

And FYI, the librarian who probably saved some lives was the interim Dean from 2005-2006.

63, I read that blurb very carefully and ABA accreditation isn't mentioned. Am I right in drawing a negative inference that it's not accredited?

http://www.abanet.org/legaled/approvedlawschools/year.html

That's the best info I could find. The law school was accredited in 1931. Has remained so ever since.

65, wait a minute. According to the links upthread, it was only renamed to Brandeis ten years ago. So, the school in 1931 that got accredited by the ABA must be a different Brandeis.

The ABA website specifically says the University of Louisville Brandeis School of Law. I'm admittedly not familiar with the effects renaming has on a law schools accreditation. I do know they didn't change locations or anything similar. I've found no evidence they are not accredited, nor are they on the provisionally accredited list. Maybe the renaming thing isn't all that important?

Renaming is of no importance to accreditation. Additionally, it was renamed in honor of Louis Brandeis. The school is a top tier school. And was accredited the same year as Duke's law school.

68, I'm confused. If its an accredited top tier school, why do its rising 2L's have to take the baby bar?

They dont moron. Please read the above posts to actually make an intelligent post. Most of Louisville graduates take the Kentucky Bar and have a mid 80% pass rate. A baby bar does not exist in Kentucky. And as the posts above indicate, Louisville is not in Mass. thus its 2Ls do not take a baby bar.

70, I'm a bit unclear on this. So, provisional accreditation means that Louisville students don't have to take a baby bar? You say 'most' take the Kentucky bar-- so the rest don't take the bar exam at all, or are there other states that recognize provisional accreditation?

70, they aren't provisionally accredited. They're fully accredited. Check the ABA website, like the above poster posted. They aren't on the provisional list, if you scroll down to 1931 (on the yearly view) that is when this law school was accredited.

Brandeis University may have a provisionally accredited law school. That's a bit of an unfortunate name thing. Brandeis School of Law AT the University of Louisville is fully accredited.

72, I think the 1931 one listed as "Brandeis" is another Brandeis, because apparently this Brandeis only changed its name to that ten years ago. Of course, it couldn't get accredited in 1931 under a name it didn't have until the 1990's. So, it would be under the old name if that was it. Maybe that's a school no longer around, and now there's both Brandeis-Louisville and the other Brandeis, and neither of them are on the list? Or am I misunderstanding the situation?

Bleh. I got my law degree from there. Its the same school. They changed their name in 1997, and after nearly 12 years I'm sure the ABA listing would reflect the name change. They're fully accredited and I can take the bar in any jurisdiction. Several of my graduating class just did New York, New Jersey, etc. This online business they were talking about early is foreign to me. I know there is a Brandeis University up north, and that was actually a bone of contention with our new Dean (Jim Chen) who wanted to change it back to just "The University of Louisville School of Law" Or, name it something else since apparently law school naming rights go for millions and millions. But, he failed, so this confusion with other schools that use the name "Brandeis" in some way persists.

74, wait, so the "school naming rights thing" above is real? So at one point it really was the YMCA Law and Maker's Mark Law College of Law? Huh. I'm surprised the constant name changes have no impact on accreditation.

75, no, that has never been the case. The School has been the University of Louisville School of Law, and The Brandeis School of Law. The only other name that may have been applicable would have been the Jefferson School of Law, but that was actually another school that merged with ours about 60 years ago, give or take.

This thread is incredible. Thanks everyone for your efforts. It is beautiful when it actually pays off.

By the way, would one with one of those old diplomas have any type of estoppel claim against their alma mater changing names? I would love a makers' mark diploma.

There was no such thing as a Makers Mark diploma, but, with photoshop and card stock, anything is possible.

71, The University of Louisville Louis D. Brandeis School of law is fully accredited. Regardless of name change. Most graduates take the Kentucky bar, but others are able and do take the bar in many other states. Are you bitter that maybe your school was only provisionally accredited? Or can you clearly not follow a post chain?

This story is about someone saving some lives, so if you would like to discuss that please do. Otherwise please refrain from looking like a jackass.

So do students at Brandeis School of Law at University of Louisville in Kentucky have to take the Massachusetts baby bar after their first or after their second year of law school?

80. No. It isn't connected with Brandeis University in Mass. at all.

So, when did Brandeis School of Law cease to be connected to Brandeis University in Mass.?

It never was.

Brandeis University (in Boston) has no law school. The University of Louisville Louis D. Brandeis School of Law is the fifth oldest in the United States in continuous operation (founded in 1846). It was named for Justice Brandeis, a native Louisvillian, whose remains (along with his wife's) are interred in the law school's portico. It has been accredited by the ABA since 1933. Distinguished alums include Sen. Chris Dodd (D-CT), journalist Howard Fineman and retired 12-term Congressman Romano Mazzoli.

Oh, and it's two minutes from Churchill Downs.

This is the stupidest f&*#ng thread ever-

- HLS '03.