That whole thing was so damn lame. I'd like to go all Chris Brown on them and put the smack down on them bitches!

I suppose that I should know the answer to this question, but is Hamline University Law School accredited by the American Bar Association?

Yawn.

This is to commenter 3: That line might have been funny once, but it really has lost its punch. And no, I do not have anything to do with Hamline. I'm just sick of the comment.

Here's a couple that actually knows how to dance:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBIt6ZnST10

5, the 3 comment is usually a troll, but re: Hamline it might be a legitimate question. I've never heard of Hamline.

I would love to comment on this lame story about a wedding party that danced down the aisle to some punk's lame song, but I am just too busy.

-Busy Associate

Is Hamline the same as a Breadline?

OR

Is it more about the girth of the bride's thigh/ass?

OR

Is it the lines etched in the flesh of her ass from her spanks or other "shaping" garment?

Sorry I laughed, a lot. Loved it-- until the bride came in her wedding dress, shouldn't she have been in a housecoat or slippers? You're all too depressed and jaded. That wedding video was the freshest thing to come along in a long time! And this was finny too.

10 - Fresh? Maybe in 2005 it was fresh, now it's as old as the stains in yo momma's drawers.

White people cannot dance! Just give it up! And funny how white people don't know any people of color.

9=hilarious.

The video isn't funny because the routine is stale by now. How many videos have there already been of newly married couples doing some funny dance while being introduced for the first time at their reception?? And, it's all just a lame attempt to make the Today show anyway. Zzzzz.

This is how they dance at weddings in Bratislava all the time.

Hamline sounds like a sequel to Spamalot.

Such tomfoolery shows no respect for the institution of marriage.

I pulled my hamline once, playing softball at UVA.

I just shit on you.

Isn't it 'Canon in D Major'?

the blonde to the right in the first set of bridesmaid is actually pretty hot. is she married?

the blonde to the right in the first set of bridesmaid is actually pretty hot. is she married?

the blonde to the right in the first set of bridesmaid is actually pretty hot. is she married?

#14 and all of you who've lost your sense of fun, generosity of spirit and belief that there are still
people who live their lives honestly I urge you
to become what you think you've lost. GIve what
you need. And dance, even if you're white.

15: subtle anti-Czech Republic trolling?

It's D Major, not Major D.

Unless "Major D" is the nickname for this Major Douche that thinks their awful dance skills merit a viral sensation. OK, funny if you were at the wedding, I admit, but SUCH BAD DANCING, even for white folks.

Czech women are hot.

The original was priceless and very well done. Any negative comments come from really bitter small people who will never be happy.

Am I the only one that thought they just looked like huge douchebags in their wedding video? All I could think was, “how is this video so popular” and “these guys look like giant douchebags.”

If I had a suggestion for the groom, it would be absolutely NOT to go to Hamline University unless he is certain that he will graduate in the top 5 or 10% b/c you sure as hell know that students outside that range aren't getting a high-paying job and will be stuck with 6 figure debt. Hope for the groom's sake, he knows this already...

First!

#27- I join you in your entire sentiment.

I'm happy when I oppress, subordinate, abuse and humiliate people like posters 23 & 27.

Well, then #32, since you've accomplished NONE of what makes you happy what's next for you? The window ledge?

They are already divorced.

Listen, everyone needs to stop knocking Hamline University School of Law. It is a highly competitive law school with a median LSAT score of 154 for the entering class in 2009. Maybe when you guys crack 154 on the LSAT, you can talk. The 75th-percentile LSAT score of 158 further proves that Hamline students are some of the brightest minds in the Midwest.

My hamline is killing me today. I should have stretched before hot naked yogalotties last night.

SpLAT

I want my 5:06 back.

29 should be required reading for anyone attending TTT law schools such as Hamline...

35 - I'm not one of the people crapping on Hamline, but I am quite positive that plenty of people who read this web site (myself included) were able to "crack" a 154 on the LSAT.

39:

Apparently your above-154 LSAT does not reflect an ability to recognize sarcasm.

Who would you rather be, wedding guy who is happily married to a funky chick (and gentlemen, perhaps you are too young to realize this, but there are few things better than a happy, funky chick) and going to law school, or these whiny pricks who brag about the median lsat scores of their school?

One of my high school friends went to Hamline and it was no big deal.

Wow 12, racist much? But really, thanks for the stereotyping; way to play your part.

39 - wow. recognize sarcasm much?
and guess what, this couple's happy. how many of you guys are, even if you had a higher LSAT? or maybe he wants to be near her, and she has work obligations. then again those are grown-up thoughts that most of you 23-year-old 1L's won't understand.

@25 --

"... nickname for this Major Douche that thinks their awful dance skills merit a viral sensation."

Well, apparently judging by the hits it got just by them posting it, obviously it DID merit a viral sensation. That would make, um, YOU the major douche.

Keep it up 42. Those never get old.

It used to be that "Envy," was something one kept to oneself. It's a sin after all, is it not? But nowadays especially on this blog, it's flaunted as if it's an accomplishment. a right, something to be proud of.
It's a hideous emotion. It makes ugly the feeler of it, and all he says and does that pours forth from it. I agree with #23 & 41. This couple is very lucky. They share so much already and have a host of friend who love and support them. Instead of clawing their lives a apart with sarcasm and envy, look to your envy and let it inform you of what you want for your life and go about getting it.

Hamline is the Tulane of Nebraska.

And #48 --YOU are the apple of who's eye?

29 - There are now plenty of grads from top schools from 2002-2009 who can't get jobs, and whose law degree makes non-legal employers run away from them (that "you can do anything with a law degree" line is the biggest crock of shit ever...).

Also, the bride in the original video needs a bra. I'd be happy to help her pick one out.

154 = TTT

154 = TTT

Who wears those hideous shit-colored suits for a wedding? If you can't afford tuxes, fine. But, Jesus, wear a dark business suit.

12 = Sinbad.

I think a lot of the haters are really hating on the whole viral-video thing. Good for them if they are happy together and can relax and have fun without worrying about what they look like. It's their day. But it's sort of like avid cyclists who ride to the wedding on separate bikes and ride away on a tandem, or skydivers who exchange vows in freefall -- it's adorable if you know them, but otherwise, who gives a shit? I am blessed to have a great relationship with my wife's extended family, but I dread the point in every get-together where we all gather around the computer and spend 20 minutes watching some kid be 5% cuter than average. It's not necessarily the happy couple's fault the video went viral, but I think a lot of the rage isn't directed against them per se.

That said, being married is no excuse to go to Hamline. There are dozens of married students at every law school in the nation, and most of them are a better investment. Being married is hard enough. Being married with no money is even worse. Being married in law school pushes a lot of strong relationships to the edge (including my own). Being married through law school, followed by $150K in debt with no realistic prospects for paying it off? I'm married to the best friend I've ever had, and I'm not sure we could survive that. Good luck, guys.

24, 26: Bratislava is the capital of Slovakia, not the Czech Republic.

No wonder so many lawyers are getting fired.

I thought Hamline was about a bunch of singing pigs (which is what their wedding video contained), but then I realized it's actually a law school.

I didn't care for their wedding video.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Everyone wants their 15 minutes

You can tell it's Minnesota because all the old white women FREAKED THE FUCK OUT when they heard a black guy go "ONETWOTHREEFOUR"

why does everyone assume people that go to low ranked schools have massive debt? maybe the guy's got a scholarship. maybe the wife makes $$$.

59-- you made my day. :)

Can it be that the video was just for family and friends, as they said it was? BUT, because this group had such a good time, bad dancers and dressers that they are, the fun they had is what made it popular. They did it for themselves. It was goofy, silly and honest fun. That some of you now need to put down Kevin's choice of law school and ridicule it is interesting. Your jealousy is so obvious. If you must compare yourselves, why not say what you'd do instead? If you didn't like their dance, what would you have done that would have been better and more fun?

Question of the day:

62 =
(a) Dean of Hamline
(b) Kevin's Dad
(c) Kevin's Mom

- - - - -

Is my jealousy of that TTT school still obvious?

Oh 63, You so underestimate the commentators on ATL, and so overestimate the reach of this blog, to his parents, yet?

Sweet Heart, it's your jealousy of Kevin, of which we speak. He's a cute guy, a fun guy, comfortable in his own skin guy. That last item (comfortable in his own skin) is a biggie. From your posts and some others, I gather you aren't at all comfy in your casing. In fact it sounds like you loathe it and your life along with it.
Learn to dance my friend, and if you aren't good at it, but like to do it, dance anyway. Sarcasm is not the entry key to anything good in life. Put down your chain saw, and if you hate dancing, go bowling or something.

All of the layoffs and hiring freezes reported on this website, then we hear about this clown going to Hamline. Look, there's too many lawyers already, even in Minneapolis, so close these paper mills down. This guy should get an engineering degree and invent a new form of dancing ketchup bottle.

Good thing he's comfortable in his own slightly overweight skin - it's going to become a lot larger and heavier in law school. Imagine how stressed he'll be, competing against other striver idiots who have churned their whole lives away for "high" GPAs, but unable to break 158 on the LSAT. But, hey, who cares about ruining his life with a shit degree that will forever stain his resume, 150k in non-dischargeable debt, and the makings of an almost-certain divorce. Kevin's friends should feel bad for enabling all of these bad decisions, and hopefully he'll realize how much they're all ruining his life with their good intentions.

64 - You must be one of Kevin's parents, as your reasoning genes (and capitalization, and comma placement, and...) would yield someone who could only get into Hamline (and better yet would actually attend in the current legal environment).

Yes, I've been sarcastic, but I sincerely hope that he reads 66 and re-thinks his decision. He seems like a happy guy in the video, and you should do what you can to keep him that way. His current path is >95% headed for disappointment, if not outright disaster.

People used to say ("way back" in 2005ish) that people were crazy to go anywhere but T14 (excluding full rides/trust funds/family situations). That's many times more true now.

--63

My Dear 67,
Sadly I'm not old enough to be Kevin or anyones parent. Also, I live in Manhattan. But more to the point, even though I know you are in the claws of
either law school or big law, for many people law school is but a mere speed bump in the trajectory of their lives. Many people who attend LS never practice law at all. Carolyn Kennedy comes to mind and many others. Plus, as we all now agree, Kevin is a happy guy, well-adjusted, he'll adjust, and perhaps take a tumble, but as you've already seen he gets back on his feet with ease. Get comfy in your casing #67. Because honestly, nothing else matters.

I am white and I love to dance. Friend made me watch that video and I thought to myself "white people should NEVER dance." Thanks for ruining it for all whites you FTT denizens- you made all of us look like fools.

"Many people who attend LS never practice law at all. Carolyn Kennedy comes to mind and many others."
Nice example

Ah yes, "reverse racism" alive and well here.

Because it is fine to say all white people can't dance, but if you said black people are a "musical people" (quoting the movie Trading Places), it would be a horrible offense (and rightly so).

I would like to take a baseball bat to the skull of the fucking retard who made this worthless piece of idiotic beetle shit video.

And to ANYONE who thought was even the least bit humorous, I hate your fucking guts.

72 needs serious therapy. And probably needs to get laid.

Fuck you 73, It's humorless pieces of shit like you who will ensure worthless crap like this will litter the internet for years to come.

Well, looks like Two and a Half Men are on.... gotta run!

Cheers.

And that's how a retarded clown became a US Senator.

Wow! It amazing how much envy, rage and hatred a
fun loving couple who dances "their way" down the isle to the rest of their lives can engender.

It says so much about the state of the minds and hearts of some, not all, young men in law today. Another sad point that's being raised about LSAT scores and dance ability is that if you can't do it perfectly you have no right to do it. That there's no room for you in law or anywhere if you aren't at or near the top of your game. Even though you might not feel it, there's room for everyone. You will find your place in life. But drop the hatred and shedding sarcasm. It harms you more than you'll know.

76 - "Isle" = "Aisle"

Additionally, for creating an analogy between LSAT scores and dancing, you fail. I award you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul.

76 -- a bit over the top, but generally correct.

78 = 76 trying to make it seem like someone else supports his/her view, without making it too obvious.

79 - While I would probably word it differently, I more or less agree with you.

The whole thing was contrived and completely lame. Fuck them.

This assumption that criticism is prima facie evidence of jealousy is a rhetorical cop-out.

They look happy. I don't think they intended for their wedding video to go viral, so I don't hold it against them. I wish them the best.

But going to a private TTT is a very bad idea right now. It's a bad idea if you're single, but there is a real possibility that it will tear this fun, happy couple apart. When her friends are all buying houses and having babies while he is scrounging for doc review, working at Starbucks, and striking out at $40K ID jobs, we won't be the ones exhibiting a little "envy."

Prestigious, Public, or Paid for: If he's on a full ride, good for him. Otherwise, take a year off, retake the LSAT, and go to the U. And if he's a member of the Kennedy family, this advice does not apply.

-- 55

I don't fault the guy for going to Hamline. Maybe he will be one of a handful of Hamline grads who lands a biglaw job in NYC and makes $160K. It's worth a shot, isn't it? Really, what's the downside of getting a JD?

#82 - It's not the criticism it's the vehemence of the criticism, the rage, the voiced hatred, the vulgarity,the racial remarks. Everyone has a right to their POV about everything, but there is waaaay to much spin on the balls being hurled at this couple, in particular Kevin, and his choice of law school.

You wished them well, and offered good general advice for anyone now considering law school. But none of us know his circumstances.

76, 78 -

The whole point of being a lawyer is to be on top (unless you are a confirmed bottom like Kash). Unlike some professions we don't weed out people who have no business practicing upfront. Pretty much anyone can get into some law school (ie Hamline). But then by class ranking and the bar the people are weeded out later. By its nature law is competitive. Maybe you all can practice hippy law somewhere but there is no place for you in biglaw if you are not at the top of your game.

Sorry old man but I don't think that's my generation, it's always been that way. Good luck with your rationalizations and thanks for playing.

Also, not sure why I would be jealous of them?

Who said Kevin was going to biglaw? Have you heard of the Public Defenders office? Big Government? Not everyone on this blog dreams of biglaw, especially not if they have friends or relatives already there, who find, despite the good pay, themselves ground down by the work.

86, the federal gov't is Biglaw-competitive, especially in this economy. State gov. isn't quite as competitive, but they're still on par with decent firms in a secondary market. DA positions are a little easier to get in most markets, but still, there aren't even enough of those jobs for everyone at good schools. PD? Are you joking? Those offices are usually have a fraction of the DA's staff, and those jobs are much harder to get at the entry level than most state gigs. If he isn't top 1/3, and the odds are 2-to-1 that he won't be, he probably has little chance at any of those jobs.

And if he drops $120K on law school (even that assumes that his lovely bride makes enough to cover living expenses), he has to pay that off whether he's interested in making big money or not.

Make that "those offices usually have . . ."

87

85 -- what the hell are you talking about?

The best "most competitive" lawyers out there aren't in biglaw at all.

Love, top of my class, biglaw attorney

@ 79/80: Fuck off.

- 78 (not 76)

Going to a Private TTT is bad news...

I have spent many hours trying to convince the Brooklyn Law School class of 2012 to drop out...all to no avail. As I mentioned, it's like going back in a time machine being on the loading dock at Southampton, UK back in April 1912...and telling all the passengers not to get on because the ship will sink.

Yet all the passengers look at me like I am crazy...HMS BLS is unsinkable...and graduates will average $100,000 starting salaries!! Full steam ahead....

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=66933901386&ref=search

Since when are the only prospects for a recent law school grad: (a) in big law, (b) in big government, or (c) working at Starbucks? Have most of you forgotten why you went to law school in the first place? Many of the students that aTTTend law schools like Hamline graduated from liberal arts undergrads, have strong family values, and no desire to work for BigLaw or BigGov anyway.

I suspect that a great majority of the students who graduate from Hamline will end up working outside the metro area or working in the metro doing transactional work. Either way, they probably won't make six-digits for the first 6-7 years of their career. But you can't tell me that 150k in low interest bearing debt isn't manageable when you're making 65k-75k a year. Not to mention that the cost of living (i.e., COLA adjustment) isn't even close to what it is in New York.

-no Hamline affiliation whatsoever

92, the problem is, most of them won't be making $65-75K. Most of them will be making $40K, and many will not find a permanent job at all.

Google "bimodal salary distribution" and get back to us.

"65k-75k a year"

ah yes, the illusory "mid law lifestyle salary"

Outside of Biglaw, you are lucky if you make that in major Eastern cities coming out of law school....so I very much doubt you will find those salaries in Minnesota.

As an 2006 grad, the reality was that even before the bust you were looking at $40k to $50k to start outside of Biglaw.

It has taken me 3 years to work my way up $67k..

In that time I have paid about $35k in student loans.....$25k of which has gone to interest....my balance has only gone down by 10k!

Why all the hate for this lovely couple?

BTW, I'm a TTT and I make the same as you top 10 wonks.

56: hence the "anti-Czech Republic" comment, genius. Ughhhhhhhh.

-24

91: I'm a BLS grad and am employed and making decent money. That being said, I remember visiting BLS before deciding to enroll and somebody was asking Joan King about employment prospects. King said something along the lines of "Well, if you're not employed upon graduation, you can just temp" with a shrug of her shoulders. I was very disturbed that she treated that prospect so casually and realized that Career Services wasn't necessarily an ally to students. Fortunately, I didn't really have to rely on them too much, but I always had that little exchange in the back of my mind when dealing with that office (especially with King herself).

91/97 --

It is like that at every law school these days. Fuck, even at top schools there is nothing for certain jobwise if you screw up. Obviously the lower on the food chain you go, the better you have to do to secure a job.

But we are all hurting these days...

The arrogant assumption that young men and women living in the mid-west have east coast values, hopes and dreams shows a huge lack of awareness of the multiplicity of humanity. There are many ways to live one's life. Just as there are many ways to get married.

That the sweet fun of this video and this young couple and their life choices has unleashed such vitriol--on this board, anyway--that is the real topic worth discussing.

Whoaaa... cowboy! - Let's not confuse biglaw associate/partners' values with "East Coast values!" Biglaws are striving shitbags everywhere, and it has nothing to do with the east coast - if in doubt, look at Chicago!

ATL comments are purely for entertainment. I read, post and peruse these solely for fun.

I couldn't possibly care less if some anonymous commentator insulted my mother, LSAT score, way of life, school, or MOST OF ALL the way a couple of white people dance.

Why waste time acting insulted? lol

Who cares if he is going to Hamline. This guy made a video that probably has 10 million hits of him and his friends dancing. And you all watched it.

He'll figure his life out, I'm sure. I'm more concerned with the rest of this petty and vain lot here.

#102 -Speaks my mind.

Lock the comments. 102 and 103 won this round. Getting over 10 million hits on youtube is a surefire sign of a successful future. See, e.g., Chris Crocker (Leave Britney Alone - 26 million views) and Samwell (What What in the Butt - 23 million views). Hamline 1, Haters 0.

I feel bad for anyone ripping this video/person. This is pretty sweet.

YES #105, It is sweet and it spoke to something in all of us that was/is also sweet. I guess a lot us have lost that sweetness, due to law school, having to compete against our friends for favor, and being kicked in the head by striving and all that it takes to get into and thrive in the world of law. But we were all once sweet, and I for one miss that part of myself and want it back.

99 - I grew up just outside of Minneapolis and would counsel any friend who asked strongly against going to Hamline for law school. Just because BigLaw isn't for everybody doesn't mean going to a place like Hamline is a good idea.

OK then--Since some of you have to find something wrong with Kevin, in this case his choice of law school, which you may be entirely correct about, how about some one stepping up and helping Kevin out?

Out of his place at Hamline and into a better school? Surely his attendance at at better law school would give it some cachet. Any Law School Deans out there with a sense of fun and a need to attract some attention? How about offering clean-cut, dancing fool, Kevin a substantial deal to go to your school? Or, does ATL have any powerful alumni readers who want to help him out? Let's fix what we think won't work, even if we can't do it for ourselves, let's forget about ourselves for a second and help these kids out.

108 - allowing a special needs student like Kevin into our esteemed program would require us to recruit at least four students who exceeded 172 on the LSAT in order to offset Kevin's LSAT score. You do realize Kevin got drool on his LSAT, don't you?

- Signed,

UIUC Trustee

The thing is, 108, a lot of people ARE offering advice. Stating that a private TTT is a very bad investment is not a personal attack.

#110 You are correct. I stand corrected. I was addressing the jibes.

This story came to mind last night - rented and watched "Zach and Miri Make a Porno." Good flick, but like Heinz's job prospects after graduating from Hamline, not very plausible...but might provide inspiration for the happy couple.....

Hamline occupies the 4th tier. They don't even rank them at that point. They just have a picture of all the 4th tier schools swirling around in a toilet.

16=win

Can you nasties all move ahead to the Bill Clinton piece? There's really nothing left to say here, and plenty
you can sink your savage teeth into about Bill and captive broads in Korea, that's he's about to release...

I loved it.

Amazingly no one has commented on the appalling choice of light brown suits for the groom and groomsmen.

Really. Light brown?

Never appropriate for court, and certainly not wedding wear!

#117- Haven't you noticed? The word "appropriate," is dead.Especially when it comes to clothing choices.

People wear black to weddings, nothing much to funerals, and even less to work. One lawyer I know arrives shirtless to work each day. Of course he's tanned and gorgeous, and a great lawyer, but the point is: words like "appalling," should only apply to harmful behavior, like using Super Glue on a guys thingamajig and then running away leaving him screaming. Now that's appalling.