I don't think I'd ever give money to them again.

I suppose I should know the answer to this, but is Roger Williams School of Law accredited by the American Bar Association, a member of the Association of American Law Schools, and a member of the International Association of Law Schools?

who cares

Guys in my high school used to have their dinners interrupted by TTT law schools named after notable American pianists all the time, it was no big deal.

-FRAT STUD

I never answer my home phone.

Is RWU where little cable cars climb half way to the stars?

Who even has a home phone anymore?

Elie: Please improve your writing. I'm talking about more than just the grammatical errors. Focus on structure, precise phrases, and concise paragraphs. Thanks.

Don't contribute. Then the law school will close. Then there will be no one to bother you.

Check and mate, TTT

Whenever someone calls during dinner, I simply answer the phone with my mouth full. This served me very well until I started receiving clerkship calls.

I always tell solicitors that I have terminal cancer and am filing for bankruptcy. That does the trick.

So I'm assuming we'll see the person who authorized this e-mail in the unemployment line soon?

Donating to your alma mater or law schooll is to some degree paying it forward. It's the recognition that other alumni contributed to your education and your success and that you should contribute to the success of other students. However, if you graduate with 6 figures of debt from a TTT law school, I don't think you have any obligation to anyone.

Donating to your alma mater or law school is to some degree paying it forward. It's the recognition that other alumni contributed to your education and your success and that you should contribute to the success of other students. However, if you graduate with 6 figures of debt from a TTT law school, I don't think you have any obligation to anyone.

My old law school, who shall rename nameless, being on the other side of the Charles River, now has undergraduates calling to ask for money. When I found out that the one calling me was an undergrad, I asked what he intended to do. He said "law school." I gave him an earful, thie website and also temp blogspot.

I felt good the rest of the evening, having done a good deed for the first time in months.

You know what's paying it forward? Donating to your College Alma Mater. Law school has given me nothing but heartache and debt. Fuck you HLS.

" I really don’t understand why “dinner time” is a sacred event. If somebody calls while I’m eating with my family, I just don’t answer the phone. Why doesn’t everybody do that? We live in a world of caller id and voicemail "

The smartest thing Elie's written all ... year?

Where's the threat in this? If you're home at dinner time that means you work for a TTT and can't afford to donate anyway.

Why should we contribute to our college or our law school? Why can't the college charge sufficient tuition to render itself a going concern? Did anyone ever write a tuition check for $40,000 and feel that they were getting a bargain because other alumni were chipping in for their education? This whole idea of hitting up alumni for $$$ has always struck me as indicative of a failing business model.

Well, this is pointless. ELIE, IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO MOVE ON TO A LESS LUCRATIVE CAREER.

Elie writes a post about dinner . . . big shocker.

I don't think any of their graduates have money

My law school interrupted my dinner/TV time one time too many...after a very angry discussion with the caller, and after hurtling several obscenities, I demanded to be removed from the list for good, the calls stopped. Besides, I give a contribution every month to the law school, it is called my student loan payment. Been giving for ten years now. I will be continuing my giving every month for the next 20 years. Other than that - they get nothing.

Elie, you fat fuck, what do you know of "family dinners"?

Eating Krispy Kremes while crying to your mom on the phone is not a family dinner

Elie, how about an update on the A&B story? Are these saps getting any severance/deferral stipend, or are they effectively out on their asses?

This wouldn't be so bad if their solicitiors weren't so rude. I'm an RWU alumni and can remember several occassions where they were unprofessional or specifically called during dinner. One time, they called me from my dinner chair and said you're moving in with your auntie and uncle in Bel Air.

I whistled for a cab and when it got near, the license plate said fresh and there was dice in the mirror. If anything I thought that this cab was rare, but I sad "naw, forget it. Yo homes, to Bel Air!" I pulled up the house about 7 or 8 and said to the cabbie "Yo homie, smell you later!" I went to my kingdom, I was finally there, and that's how RWU's tactics are totally unfair.

This wouldn't be so bad if their solicitiors weren't so rude. I'm an RWU alumni and can remember several occassions where they were unprofessional or specifically called during dinner. One time, they called me from my dinner chair and said you're moving in with your auntie and uncle in Bel Air.

I whistled for a cab and when it got near, the license plate said fresh and there was dice in the mirror. If anything I thought that this cab was rare, but I sad "naw, forget it. Yo homes, to Bel Air!" I pulled up the house about 7 or 8 and said to the cabbie "Yo homie, smell you later!" I went to my kingdom, I was finally there, and that's how RWU's tactics are totally unfair.

What lawyer is home in time to have dinner with their family??

Faulty assumption: that a RWU graduate has a dime to spare for charitable contributions.

I have to echo 23-I have already given my law school a shit load of money, it's calles tuition (what a waste), and have already told my alumni association, as long as I'm paying ~$1000 every month in student loans, you will not be getting a penny from me, ever.

I'm a recent grad and will likely NEVER donate to my law school. I've already donated hundreds to my undergrad and will likely do so again. At least they didn't raise my tuition every year! I left undergrad with 20k in debt and easily paid it off. I currently have 155k+ in law school debt and counting. Eff u, law school!!

30-

~1000k/mo? Lucky! Mine's going to be ~$1800/mo! Again, eff u, law school!!!

-31

Mystal, as you are a fat racist walrus, do you find it easier to type with your tusks?

Collin Greens

33 -

"Mystal, as you are a fat racist walrus, do you find it easier to type with your tusks?"

You are one sick individual. If this is all you got, please leave. To paraphrase the President: "Elie was black before he became EIC of ATL."

"But on the flip side, I really don’t understand why “dinner time” is a sacred event. If somebody calls while I’m eating with my family, I just don’t answer the phone. "

So Elie never answers the phone?

Roger Williams is OK, but nothing to shake your tail at. Other than Moscow on the Hudson, his movies have been pretty crappy.

Thirty years ago, my father went to the same t25 state law school that I went to. His tuition bill? $1000 total. For all three years. Somehow between now and then, the cost of legal education increased more than tenfold, even counting for inflation.

He may be willing to donate. I? Not a dime.

NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOUR WORTHLESS POSTS ABOUT LAW SCHOOLS, THEIR DINNER TIMES, THEIR MOOT COURTS, OR THEIR SELF-ENTITLED STUDENTS.

Roger Williams > Suffolk > coffee-induced greasy crap I took this morning > Northeastern.

Also, there is no Rhode Island. Aquidneck, Jamestown, Block, Prudence, Patience, Hog, and Hope Islands, yes, but no Rhode. The state is a misnomer.

When you double-post a Bel Air, the surprise is kinda gone. Also not as funny as the previous thread's.

I suppose I should know the answer to this, but is UVA accredited by the American Bar Association, a member of the Association of American Law Schools, and a member of the International Association of Law Schools?

26- It was funny the first time. Now its boring. If you continue it will become annoying.

42 - duly noted. I'll try to save it for a more appropriate time.

43 = troll's remorse

41 - Please just die. Much like this line you and so many others have beaten to death.

"my university" MysTTTal's lame attempt to get the newbies to google his resume so that they can discover that "his university" is HARVARD!!!

Somebody should bomb Roger Williams back to the stoneage!

-DOJ Secure

I was angry when I received this notice. I quickly replied that it was in "poor taste." After receiving an apology from the law school I replied with the following:

"Thank you for your note. I apologize for my initial curt response. Many of my colleagues from the law school were offended from this e-mail and/or mailing as well. Although many of us would like to make a gift to the school, right now we are unable to do so. We are all still paying off thousands of dollars (at interest) for our degree and expenses during our time there. As you are aware, the notice says, “if your gift is received on or before the deadline of Friday, October 9th, your special family time won’t be interrupted by an alumni caller.” The reason this was upsetting was because it implies a threat that those who cannot or do not make a gift will be inconvenienced as a result. Especially in the days of “do not call lists,” requests for donations should always be made at appropriate times and in the appropriate manner. It is more appropriate to leave a voicemail on a cell phone during business hours or solicit via e-mail. An alumni caller should not deliberately be calling one’s home at dinner time looking for a donation that most likely would’ve been made already if it was going to be. I extend my comments with all due respect to an institution that I respect, speak very highly of, and am very proud of being a graduate of. Please consider these thoughts in the future and remember the audience of young alumni who are still struggling to pay off their debt- with precious personal time that hopefully will be respected. Thank you. "

MJS class of 2005

How the fuck do any RWU alumni have money to donate in the first place? It's not like any of them have jobs that mean anything.

Apparently, Shearman & Sterling is hiring from American (based on yesterday's LEWW post). If they're hiring from American, they'll probably take RWU grads as well.

M(.)(.)BS

The RWU knocks would be funnier if they weren't actually beating higher ranked schools in competitions and bar pass rates. Pretty sad that some schools with decades of history to draw upon can't top a school that is younger than every single person posting on this blog.

52 - let's think of some more irrelevant platitudes, like square footage of library, average brithweight of professors' children, and prominence of intramural ultimate frisbee teams.

I did not know that employees of non-peer law schools were instructed on how to use both e-mail systems and the telephone.

Huh. My college merely threatened to continue destroying the forests of the world to print up lame solicitation letters if I didn't pay up.

52 - who gives a shit? And what "competitions" are you talking about? The only competition I care about is the job market, and last I checked RWU wasn't placing high numbers of students at peer firms.

But enjoy your many mock trial and moot court trophies, please.

56 - why do you care about the job market?

-not a 2L like you

52,

TTT schools care about competitions because...well, its all they have. Its not like they can compete in any other way. Have you ever been to a competition with T20 schools? Notice how most of them were having fun? Relaxed? That's because to them, it is a fun activity with little relevance. To you, it was probably 1of 20 things on your resume that you needed to crawl into a regional firm, and you took it seriously because you knew you needed all 20 things to even get an interview.

Bar pass rights are going to be high..its a three year bar prep course. The rest of us went to "law school" where were learned to think, analyze, and interact with others, not extended barbri.

58 - your grammar is piss poor for someone who claims to have gone to a T20 school. and you shouldn't review documents at that late hour.

- T14, D.C.

Too funny. 58 is bitter because his ATLA trial team got its clock cleaned by Suffolk. Having fun my ass...you can't say with a straight face that every team in those competitions doesn't want to win. Take your licks like a real man and admit that you were not good enough.

RWU law alumni here. Free ride + six figure pay = priceless.

OK, here's the kicker. Some of us that received this e-mail have only been out of law school for 4 freaking months!!! AND at this point 90% of us do not even know if we have passed a bar exam, allowing us to work as attorneys. And the law school which put me in over $175,000 worth of debt has the nerve to threaten to disturb me if I do not give them money. What the HELL has RWU done for me at this point? I pity the person that has the misfortune of dialing my number because I will have a few choice words to share with the administration that approved this tactic, and a law school that has been so busy worrying about its accreditation that it has lost sight of its primary goal---to HELP STUDENTS!!! When I have the means to pay off all the debt RWU has put me in, then i MIGHT consider donating at that time. So I guess I should be getting a call from them in about 25 years!

It's a shame that the comments and publications coming from this law school seem to be continuing down a path of POOR TASTE!!!
This e-mail is a prime example, and for those of you that missed it--The comments Professor Bogus made at the Glen Manor Honors Reception regarding the subject of how other students financed our (the honors students) law school education were particularly distasteful and a strong incentive as to why I will not be donating to the law school. Because contrary to Carl's views, I financed my own law school education, and I am in debt for the next 20 years as a result--just like the other 68% of RWU students who did not receive financial assistance or guidance from this institution. It's a shame because my professors hammered home the notion that you should stop and think before you open your mouth or write a response. Perhaps the law school--administration and faculty alike-- should make this their new mantra.