Non-Sequiturs: 09.02.09
* Alberto Gonzales the opera. No, that is not a joke. [Gonzales Cantata]
* Have you ever wondered if your career would be going better if you were a lawyer in Korea? If so … you can stop worrying now. [The Chosun Ilbo]
* A lot of you have emailed me asking whether I hate immigrants. I do not. [True/Slant]
* California lawyers have a symposium where they can bitch about discuss the changing nature of the legal market. [University of San Francisco]
* “Your job, as a father, is to keep your daughter off the pole.” — Chris Rock. [Topix]
* Stop. Going. To law school. Please! [Dealbook]




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Big law lawyers fired. Summer associates no offered. We're back to normal.
Did you eat Kash? Where is she today?
Proof that this site has hit the crapper: being duped into thinking the Gonzales Cantata website, which is a parody of the Drudge Report, is actually somehow connected to Drudge.
The New York Times article is on point (for once). In the course of my still young career, I have encountered only a small handful of truly adept lawyers. I would say the remaining 85% are simply paper pushing schlubs who disgrace the legal profession. Thankfully, my salary at my father's preeminent peer law firm will enable me to sojourn away from these impoverished and unqualified people.
Evan here. In Singapore, we don't worry about keeping our daughters off the pole. We worry about keeping them away from sex tourist attorneys.
Alberto Gonzales the opera. No, that is not a complete sentence.
the Chosun article was the worst reporting I've seen in a while
4 - winning comment of thread
Elie - I've been following your "stop going to law school" crusade. But, seriously, what's it to you? Why be so passionate about it when you don't even work as a lawyer anymore?
It's like me telling people to stop going to med school.
ELIE -- These day laborers are NOT "immigrants." They are illegal aliens, and by taking a job, they are violating the law as are their employers.
So as a lawyer, are you advocating law-breaking?
Are you advocating law-breaking?
Are you advocating law-breaking?
from the article about the korean lawyers' plight:
"One young female lawyer, who had been in the legal business for three years, earned only W2 million (US$1=W1,238) a month as a hired attorney. Her boss claimed he could not afford to pay her and suggested she work double time for another lawyer. "
So she earned about 2000 dollars a month?? I have been a lawyer for over a year now and have NEVER earned 2000 in a month working as a lawyer. There are ads on craigslist wanting to hire lawyers for 10 dollars an hour or even for free.
Korean lawyers have it much better than American lawyers. We have a much greater oversupply of lawyers here.
So the disgraced Amityville legislator is your father? But of course, growing up in that house, you are not in any way racist. Of course.
By the way, you must have gone to high school in Amityville? Kindly release your SAT and High School transcript, because I grew up in the Bronx, my mother was a secretary and my dad was a sandhog and I went to Stuyvesant, had a B+ average and 1320 on my SAT and didnt get into Harvard. But then, I'm white.
"Bryant Garth, the dean at Southwestern Law School in Los Angeles, where enrollment is up 11 percent. He disagrees with Miami’s approach and believes that trying to shrink class size amounts to panicking. “I insist law is still a good career,” he said. “Students may just have to make it in a more entrepreneurial fashion.” "
Looks like another bozo dean would've failed the logical reasoning portion of the LSAT.
Funny. When a black guy is a racist, its "an unfortunate remark". When a white guy is a racist, Al Sharpton marches throug your town. Good show family Mystal.
"ELIE's Dad" avatar in 3... 2... 1...
Elie: ARE YOU WORKING FOR THE WHITE HOUSE now?
Obama press release on Education full of typos: Obama to address America's "schoochildren"
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/MEDIA-ADVISORY-President-Obama-to-Speak-Directly-to-Students-in-National-Address-on-Educational-Success/
3 - Where's the proof that ATL thought it was connected to Druge?
12. You make me ill.
Hey Elie:
I really appreciate you defending the families honor. I knew there was a reason why I paid off those people at Harvard to make sure you got in, it has paid off ten fold. I'm glad you were able to trick everyone into thinking I was just being racist because everyone else is racist, when in fact I'm just racist.
By now I'm sure the editors have seen that there were layoffs at Kirkland in NYC and DC (courtesy WSJ Law Blog). I was curious if any first years from my alma mater (law school in NY state) got canned--don't want to get too specific and lead to an "outing" of someone who is already having a terrible day. It appears that one did--a litigation associate. :( Scary.
Damn, Dunphy is smoking hot:
http://www.melissadunphy.com/headshot3.jpg
Unfortunately the legal profession and being a high paid lawyer is a dead dream. Lawyers are all but finished (as are all us banker/finance types). What do you do with $200k+ in debt from law school with no job prospects and mommy and daddy can't bail you out?
The fact is that the money has already been made in this country and no matter how hard the "middle-class" (i.e. children of immigrants) work to get ahead, they will end up treading water at best. Excessive tuition fees for law/med etc. have all but sucked out any excess value derived from higher potential earnings, prestige, and social status conferred with these degrees. It reallly is over folks (not coming back), and all the 4.0 GPA's that borrowed huge $ to go to undergrad at Middlebury 'cause they couldn't pay cash are pretty much screwed and will likely be debt slaves for life.
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Did you not get the memo? The official language of the White House is ebonics.
Oh no he di'int......
Yes, yes I did.
Elie- my dad tells black jokes too. Does that make him not a racist?
I'd like to request a poll. What percentage of lawyers, given the chance to step into a time machine, would go back and retrace their steps into law?
A majority of Biglaw corporate attorneys I've talked with explicitly said that they hate their jobs but tolerate it for the money/perks - and this was before the economic downturn led to lay-offs. Is this sentiment representative of the profession generally?
I feel like I should know this, but is USF an ABA-accredited school? Where does it stand in the T14?
I just graduated from Stanford and I don't have many complaints about the legal market out here in California. Even after sharting during an interview and leaving a trail of poopy juice as I exited the room, I still ended up at a nice SF firm. :-P