Stop Holding Out on Us: Lady Godiva and Other Summer Associate Stories
We love summers at ATL. In addition to warm weather and the guys at Hollister going shirtless, we’re usually inundated with stories of summer associate adventures. This past summer was a disappointment when it came to crazy SA tales. There was a dearth, with the exception of Baker Botts’ Curious George, McDermott’s tempermental immigrant, and Cadwalader’s stripper seekers.
We know there were more stories but that summer associates were hesitant to share, given the environment of fear this summer. But with yesterday’s Autumnal equinox, the summer’s officially over. Most offers (or no offers) are out. Let go of your fear, former summer associates! More importantly, let go of your secrets.
We noticed one summer associate story set free in the comments on the No Offer Open Thread on Friday.
We give you the summer associate tale of Mayer Brown’s “Lady Godiva” after the jump. Feel free to expose other summer associate stories by sending them to us at tips@abovethelaw.com. As always, we will keep those involved anonymous.
Do not reveal the identity of “Lady Godiva” in the comments or we’ll make you ride a horse naked through the streets of New York City. Or we’ll just ban your IP address.
Here’s the story as told by commenters. The “Lady” is a male summer associate who worked in Mayer Brown’s Chicago office. He did get up on a high horse of sorts, according to one commenter:
One Thursday evening, we had an event at a venue of which we had rented out only a portion. There happened to be a number of people from McDermott Will & Emery at the bar, who were approached by the individual known as “Lady Godiva.” Assuming that they were summer associates, Lady Godiva proceeded, unprompted, to rail on MWE, blathering like a drunken asskabob about how it was a terrible firm, that they laid people off, cut salaries, and that nobody was going to get offers. The MWE people were so steamed that they left the barExcept…most of the people were actually associates. Word of his douchebaggery spread like wildfire. Within days, people at Mayer (summers as well) were getting calls from MWE people asking about Lady Godiva. Attorneys were asking about it at lunches, and recruiting committee found out about it as well. Even worse, the Einstein decided to bring the incident up in conversations with attorneys, seemingly BRAGGING about how he had put the MWE people in their place.
So how did Lady Godiva get his name? From a commenter:
Kid brought in a bunch of very nice small boxes of Godiva chocolates for everyone on the recruiting committee on the last day.
Apparently it worked. Commenters on the thread suggest that Lady Godiva did indeed earn an offer.
One commenter speculates:
I’m not Godiva, nor am I affiliated with Oscar Mayer Wieners in any way. I’m just pointing out something that is worth noting. Kid did something right, apparently. And for the record, I think the boxes of chocolates are much more douchey than badmouthing MWE. True, trash-talking MWE shows a certain lack of class. But I’m guessing that MB folks were secretly (or maybe not-so-secretly) proud of the fact that this dude was so enthusiastic about their firm, even to the point of putting down their competitor in public.
You have to treat a firm right to get it to marry you these days.




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Firsty McFirstein
A SA stabbed a hiring partner with an icicle made from the blood of a dead puppy that he strangled
mwe is ttt
you love summers?
you just wrote a 20 page diatribe about how firms should misrepresent themselves to law students and not hire them
this story is boring. talk about a bait and switch.
2 wins
The summer associate should be praised for his accuracy about MWE, they are not a pier firm.
Where can I get a refund for the time I wasted reading this garbage?
Burgren is still the ultimate striver. His striver methods are unmatched. Lady Godiva doesn't even come close.
Proskauer can suck a fat one!!!
I know a pretty sweet story about similar happy hour chest-beating between to large NYC V10s but I would be blowing up too many people's spots if I went into it.
Why are you so shellfish, Kash?
It's true, MWE sucks now
This post means nothing unless and until JaKe Emeritus provides his opinion.
During my summer associate stint I labored 84 hours a week and took only one day off for a friend's wedding at Hilton Head. Having an "interesting story" from a summer post is simply code for "I didn't work hard" as hard workers should not have time for these shenanigans. It is of zero wonder why these ignorant schlubs are being deferred and no-offered.
Work harder, plebs.
First to say-
Hey Kash,
I'd really like to hear some interviewers' stories of horribly desperate and douchey things 2Ls said and/or did in OCIs this year... There should be a thread on this...
The bombshell of this story is that a summer actually got drunk this year. Every event I attended, the summers were the only people smart enough to stay sober.
16 = loserdork
14: JaKe Emeritus: Best. Commenter. Ever. There, I said it.
I should have spent these last few minutes listening to my professor lecture about financial intermediaries instead of reading this pile of duck poo.
New, better story or GTFO
Worst. Summer. Associate. Story. Ever. With the name like Lady Godiva at least a hint of nudity should be expected. And all we learn is that it is just some dude who likes Godiva Chocolates. Rest assured I was on the internet within minutes registering my disgust throughout the world.
I hear that over the summer, Latham slipped something into the drink of a summer associate's career, and then proceeded to violate said summer's career.
I went to Las Vegas with a senior associate for a depositon. We stayed at the Bellagio, where we ran into baseball hall of famer George Brett. Here is the rest of what happened.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2Dn0hs-CM8
I got thoroughly polluted at more than a few summer events and got an offer. As long as you have self control there is nothing wrong with taking advantage of free booze.
7, that's unfortunate. Where does McDermott board its ships from then?
I'd tell the Skadden story, but no one would believe it. I don't believe it.
What is wrong with bringing chocolates?
I am from the South, so maybe I don't understand the "doucheyness" of a polite gesture.
9 - what is a burgren? and what does a burgren strive to do?
I shop at Pier1.
MWE associate.
27-
I'm from the South also.
1. We aren't as polite as we think we are
2. Bringing the chocolates was douchey. Period.
Awful story.
23, that video is the funniest thing that i have ever seen on the internet. requires multiple viewings.
-not 23
New reader and first-time poster here. I am looking for a website that reports news/gossip about all of the big law firms and reputable schools, but I have never heard of this firm. Is there another website I should check out? Thanks.
Mild story, badly told.
I agree with 4. Why should we give ATL more fodder? So you can use it to tell us again how undeserving and spoiled you think we are?
What about the firms in Boston, NYC, DC and Chicago that have yet to hand out offers (or no-offers)?????????
Kash,
We, the readers of ATL, expect this mindless dribble from your EIC, Elie. However, we expect more from you. Do not fall into the temptation your boss does of promising the World and only delivering crap. This story was neither scandalous nor entertaining. The MWE attorneys who were offended and started telling the world are the real story here. They should be outed and plastered on the pages of ATL for thier thin skinned ways.
I agree with 15.
As an associate interviewing current 2Ls, I find some of the moronic things I'm hearing truly incredible in this market. Why you even got a call back, I don't know, but you're lucky if you make it to dessert at the rate you're going.
27, the point of being polite is to exhibit class, not to achieve an end
even in my podunk GA town, this would be equivalent to "kissing ass"
Who wants to see my cock?
Longhorn
7: try using the proper "peer" when trying to sound intelligent. Douchebag.
i agree that there is nothing wrong with what this lady godiva guy did...the people ragging on him sound like bitter mayer trolls that did not get offers....
this story is all smoke and no flames
Summary:
A guy said mean things, but then nothing happened.
Awesome. This reminded me of Hope Winters' knack for storytelling.
This is the worst SA story ever! Who cares that a summer ragged on a firm he wasn't summering at? Even if he was blasting his own firm to associates at that firm, it wouldn't be a great story.
Enough with this crap. Is there really nothing going on in the legal world worth reporting that all we get is some copy-pasting from a comment thread? BFD.
Is McDermott even giving offers?
I've got a great story all about how an SA got an offer this fall. I'd like to take this time to ask those who know to please refrain from outing this guy.
In a secondary market, where I went to UG, I summered at a firm even though I was from a TTT. I was writing and filing, which paid the rent, and one night attended a summer event. Then a couple of partners, who were in a bad mood, got drunk and gave me an attitude. We got in one little argument and HR got scared and said "you're being deferred til next summer so spend some time in Bel-Air."
I pulled up to the firm about 7 or 8, and yelled to the driver "Latham's full of haters!" I got me an offer, I was finally there, now working as an associate in a town called Bel-Air.
47 - ok, that was decent
25: It went right over your head. See also 5, 11 for a clue...
@ 46 - yes they did.
PONYBOY!
7 for biggest failure in world history.
47 for mildly funny rehashing of the immortal #7's comment from last week.
"Kid brought in a bunch of very nice small boxes of Godiva chocolates for everyone on the recruiting committee on the last day."
Uh...this is worthy of ATL? Seems like a nice gesture to me.
The mean MBE score in Arizona was 146. It was 145 in Missouri. What does that mean for those of us who are still waiting?
-sleepless in Chicago
That story sucked. At which douchemarket River North bar did this occur?
I heard rumors in other posts that MWE started making calls to summers. Any truth?
49, bad jokes will usually do that.
Hmmm... Maybe there's something to Elie's analogy of SA=dating. http://www.goodsharks.com
23, I almost shart myself after seeing that video. Here is the unedited version, even funnier. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNlaTbO-Rp8&feature=related
Summers were very well-behaved this year, for obvious reasons. Tales of ordinary rudeness even more banal than this made the rounds as juicy stories.
You don't need a firm to marry you. That's ridiculous. People, please understand, firms are only interested in making money. They don't care about you or your feelings. Work hard and show them that you are going to be minimally difficult to train and of maximum billable profit. You reap the reward by being trained at a good firm and getting a good salary. That's all there is to it. Even if they love you as a person, they will throw you out the second the bottom line dictates it. That's just the reality, so stop obsessing about it!
http://www.dearnlaw.com
Well, I just got no offered from BOTH FIRMS, so I might as well share a story I saw from this summer. From the fact that I had two firms, you can probably guess I'm from Texas.
One of the firms I was at, which I will not out specifically in hopes that I may, although not likely soon, get to work there in the future, had an event at a dueling piano bar. The content of the songs was pretty raunchy - let's just say some of the lyrics had us blushing, and as the night went on the SA's and attorneys started getting a little more loose because of the liquid courage. That's when it got interesting.
So one summer, who is a rockstar at UT, goes over to a female partner. Both are pretty sauced at this point. We noticed from a few tables over that he sort of leaned in to whisper in her ear and she chuckled afterwords. He then proceeded to go to the bar and get another drink and then (and this is where it gets completely ridiculous) he came back over to our table and sat down. Meanwhile, the partner stayed at her table for a few more songs and then left. Right after she left, maybe 5 minutes or so, and this almost felt like it was planned - straight out of Hollywood - a completely different summer got up and caught a cab home with a few other summers!
It was pretty much the talk of the entire summer class from then on out. And you wouldn't believe it, but the original AND the second guy got an offer!!! I mean, holy crap, how in the world did he get an offer and not me?!?
This story has at least 3 things missing from it in order to be worthy of the title.
Could it be that summers (and other lawyers) are starting to realize that there's no benefit to embarrassing themselves, their firms, or their colleagues in an online forum? Maybe if you started paying for editorial content by random summers (since you write so little of your own), people would talk more.
I'm from the South, so I see this as a nice gesture.
When someone works hard to benefit you, chocolates are the thing you do.
I don't understand the import of 62's story. If that was the point, then congrats.
I read 62 three times. Well done, well done. You got me.
This is the first time I have actually read an abortion, instead of paying for one to happen.
47 gets an A for effort.
"I am from the South, so maybe I don't understand the "doucheyness" of a polite gesture."
27 is right, in the south they give BJs not chocolates.
And the only post worth reading is 22.
One Saturday, when I was coming into Stroock to do some fake work, I wore flipflops INTO THE OFFICE! Into the office! I changed them of course afterwords, but it was a crazy walk from the elevators to my desk! Hilarious!
Yeah I don't get 62 either.
47 = proper example of being Bel Aired
71 > 62.
62 - slow clap, my friend...slow clap
Please, for the love of all things good and right, please tell the fainting story. You guys know who you are.
62,
I am only VERY peripherally related to the legal world (through a spouse), and so I read this site to keep up with her profession. I can name a pretty profound reason for you getting no-offered, regardless of my lacking a lawyerly background. But I will spare you that reason to salvage whatever dignity you have left.
62 = comment of the year
i do not understand 62. I feel like the guy in Mallrats.
I AM GOING TO SEE THIS SAILBOAT EVERYONE'S TALKING ABOUT
13 = 14 = 18
You're not fooling anybody. Loser.
I go to a TTTT. Someone please clue me in to what the hell 62 is talking about.
Seriously. Thanks (or SRSLY. TXS for those of you under 25)
When I was a 2L the douchiest chick in our class made an ass of herself two summers in a row and got an offer. Quota!
See, the thing about 62 is that it really demonstrates the newsworthy moments that deserve closer analysis and discussion on ATL.
-not 62 (or T14, 81)
Maybe I'd contribute something juicy if I had the affection I had for this website even just a year ago.
I don't like ATL's self-adulation, for example.
I keep coming back for useful threads, such as the open threads on small firms. Or when there's interesting info/stories that aren't primarily hype (e.g., this thread).
Maybe I'd contribute something juicy if I had the affection I had for this website even just a year ago.
I don't like ATL's self-adulation, for example.
I keep coming back for useful threads, such as the open threads on small firms. Or when there's interesting info/stories that aren't primarily hype (e.g., this thread).
Oh, I also don't like how often ATL links to its "affiliate"/alter-ego websites.
33 = HAHAHAHAHAHHA
how. much. more. annoying. can. this. use. of. dramatic. punctuation. be.? The. answer. is. none. . . . None. more. annoying.
I hear a valedictorian of a prominent southern school called an openly gay summer associate a faggot at an Atlanta firm...but he still got an offer...sounds about right.
I don't get the story in 62 either.
If that was a sample of the kind of work you did over the summer, no wonder you got no-offered.
89-
Don't be daft. 62 is kidding around. The post is a spoof of how stupid the Lady Godiva story is.
Does anyone know of firms that still haven't gotten back to their 2009 summers?
62 = 71
There can't possibly be two people out there who don't know how to spell "afterwards"
There was this summer in my summer class at a NY biglaw firm who was working late one night. He was in an office that was shared with two other summers who weren't there at the time. The office had a big glass window on one side and a frosted glass door on the other.
Being there late, he felt the need to rub one out. He swiveled his chair away from the window so that office workers across the way couldn't see his schlong, but he braved the risk of someone walking in through the frosted door. Nevertheless, he successfully e-jacked on the floor. He cleaned it up with scrap paper. The next day he showed his office mates the cum stain on the gray carpet.
After whacking it on biglaw's carpet, he ended up declining a biglaw offer to go work for a non-profit. We haven't heard of any more masturbatory rumors about him since.
I heard there are still some midlaw firms in Chicago that haven't heard back yet, do tell!