Non-Sequiturs: 10.14.09
* Here’s all you need to know about this link: Elizabeth Wurtzel, curtains, no rug, “vaginal hegemony.” [Jezebel]
* Never take sex photos you don’t want everybody to see after you break up with the guy. [True/Slant]
* On-campus interviewers are very interested in your answers to “behavioral questions.” I guess they are trying to figure out if you are a drone or a droid. [Young Lawyers Blog]
* Can law firms use the grapevine to their advantage? [Law and More]
* It appears that Jobless Lawyer (we linked there yesterday) is a former associate at Latham & Watkins. Maybe he’ll be an inspiration to all of the former Latham associates? [Legal Blog Watch]
* Alfred Nobel’s grudge against lawyers. [Legally Drawn]
* Lat is doing a call-in program tomorrow at 2 p.m., moderated by Edward Adams of the ABA Journal, entitled “Why Openness & Transparency at Law Firms Matters.” [Legal Rebels / ABA Journal]




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meh'TTTh!
Thirdsty McThirdsty!
Openness and transparency matter, but subject-verb agreement doesn't matter?
Guys at my high school used to advocate for vaginal hegemony all the time. It was no big deal.
ABA continues to destroy the profession. Lat is just following along with their big law bitch fantasy land, while lawyer jobs are outsources to India.
Down South, we prefer a girl with a reasonably well-manicured landing strip. Or, hell, even just the occasional trim.
Speaking of a hairless vagina as an "asymptote" of feminine hygiene is suggestive of serious neurosis.
Why do you link to Jezebel? Nothing but a bunch of very-early-90s feminist angst over there.
Best Jezebel line about this tw[i]t:
"...[so and so] wrote that Wurtzel "has always ascribed a universality to her own experiences" — and really, the best response to her thoughts on pubic hair is, "speak for your fucking self."
And furthermore, provide pictures or STFU.
The only things that suck more than ATL these days are the ridiculous and asinine "sites" that Ms. Tal links to every day.
ATL is "guessing" what "behavioral questions" are because ATL is clueless, as is the norm these days. Behavioral questions seek to determine whether a candidate has a particular set of work-related skills by asking the candidate to describe an incident from their past where their behavior demonstrated the skill in question. It cuts through the pat answers and BS, and has been used in high-tech industries for over a decade, with great success. Frankly, compared to how other industries do interviewing, law firm interviewing is primitive and ineffective.
It's also a goldmine of whiny comments by people who claim to hate the site but can't seem to stop posting.
I'm taking ATL off my daily news reads. To much trash, not enough news. Fortunately I still have the WSJ lawblog, and specialty lawblogs.
All good things come to an end. ATL as a good thing has ended.
Kash! That blog of so-called ex-girlfriend pics you link to in your column is not real! The girls are all models or at least paid for their pics. I'm surprised you couldn't tell given the fact the lighting in all of them was professionally done and they all had a sequence. When there are real naked pics or videos, they look like crap.
Kash! That blog of so-called ex-girlfriend pics you link to in your column is not real! The girls are all models or at least paid for their pics. I'm surprised you couldn't tell given the fact the lighting in all of them was professionally done and they all had a sequence. When there are real naked pics or videos, they look like crap.
When it comes to vaginal hegemony and the women I choose to date, a well-groomed landing strip is preferred, with an ideal candidate waxing in my initials.
Behavioral questions were heavily in use when interviewed for my job back in 2006. Thanks for the newsflash, ATL.
Nice job blaming the victim (re: True/Slant story). Glad to see your misogyny come to the fore. I guess college girls who get drunk at frat parties also expect to be raped...or female law students also expect to become prostitutes to pay off loans...kind of like gravity right?
The writing on that Jobless Lawyer blog is ridiculous. The guy's a walking malaprop. It's like reading the dialogue for the guy on Oz who spends too much time in the prison library. Don't they still teach English in school?
MysTTTal, can I fuck your moobs????
Tell Kash that suing for $75,000 will not get you into federal court. I assume she is talking about diversity jurisdiction so the amount is $75,000.01. Of course I am focusing on the least interesting part of her post.
Also, Dear Merciful God please let me pass the bar exam.
What is the gangbang picture sluts view on whether to shave? I guess her view on vaginal hegemony is pretty clear since muff was controlling a large number of men.
"Lat is doing a call-in program tomorrow at 2 p.m., moderated by Edward Adams of the ABA Journal, entitled “Why Openness & Transparency at Law Firms Matters.”"
Coincidence that Lat and Elie posted a muckraking piece on the totally anticlimactic 3 month-old WlimerHale memo last night?
Behavioral question: can you tell me about a time you were laid off after incurring over $100k of debt in pursuit of your golden ticket to biglaw?
11 says behavioral questions are new, but 17 says they're old. which is it? i think a survivor-like interview process is a good way to learn about a candidate's behavior.
Re: behavior questions
About fucking time. The knee-jerk acceptance of arrogant, unidimensional FTT sociopathic hacks has caused the degradation of the legal profession into an anti-meritocratic cesspool of self-entitled sharp dealers who wouldn't know how to problem-solve their way out of a closet.
"Behavior questions" are par for the course for doctors, engineers, and teachers--but as always, the incestuous BigLaws would prefer to ignore actual thinking ability in exchange for secret handshakes and shared country club memberships. Now that the FTT-dominated anti-meritocracy has started to feel blowback for its own stupidity, it is forced to take a lesson from the other professions.
I doubt it is pure serendipity that the other professions not beholden to idiotic labels like "TTT" and "Ivy League" are the same ones that don't have to fret over whether to take deep salary cuts or can a quarter of their staffs. No doubt they have been forced to squeeze thanks to the cult criminal enterprise and their FTT enablers, but at least they aren't bleeding. Don't believe me? Where's the "Above the Hospital" or "Above the Engineering Firm" site?
If someone writes a blog that is extremely well received by some mainstream media outlets and virtually the entire internet, one strategy you can take is the criticize the writing. Maybe that way people will fail to notice that the blog actually does a decent (though awkwardly written) job of communicating the perspective of those who have had their lives turned upside down. After that, use the momentum for the takedown, then switch to the heel hook once he sets guard.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33314539/ns/business-personal_finance/
I found that article about as helpful as a belt on Elie.
27,
Couldn't have said it better myself. Though I have seen as many perfect blog entries as perfect cases (that is to say, none), I congratulate the ATL editors for their efforts in putting out a very informative product.
To add: Another strategy I've noticed by some of the more neanderthal commenters have been resort to gay, racial, or ethnic slurs directed to the editors and/or commenters. Very classy and incredibly courageous behind the "guest" veil. Also certainly revealing of the FTT education said ignoramuses received in their pre-19th century instruction.
Maybe the quirky writing style is part of what is getting the blog attention. I personally find some of it quite entertaining.
The author obviously doesn't take himself too seriously, trying to find levity in depressing situations is humbling.
But asking for reasonableness from the majority of ATL commentors is like asking Big Law for compassion, never going to happen.
There is one thing the ATL masses are good for, though, and that's to see just how many words three T's can be added to in the English language and in what creative ways.
Reading comments on this board often makes me depressed that these people are my colleagues.
Guys in my old high school used to whine about the generally negative tone of anonymous commenters on blogs all the time, it's not that big of a deal.
It's the internet. People are anonymous assholes. If you don't like it, read a magazine while you still can. I, for one, come here specifically to delight in the absurdity of the comments.
31 ("I, for one, come here specifically to delight in the absurdity of the comments.")
Then you've certainly come to the right place.
To clarify, I don't have a problem with anonymity in general--it generally leads to freer discussion. See Federalist Papers, David Hume, Deep Throat, the Minority Report (the document, not the movie). I would be more lighthearted about the comments if they weren't truly representative of the devolved and hobbled legal profession as it exists today.
I am empathetic to 30's sentiments. The rank stench of racism, homophobia, elitism, and nepotism is not just a phenomenon of this blog's comments, but of BigLaw and its FTT keepers as a whole. BigLaw is a de facto cartel, the ultimate mercenary enlisted by FTT-run business and banking to orchestrate and hide criminal enterprise. And ultimately, it is the very people hated by those self-entitled hacks--those who aren't white, straight, blue-blood, or incestuous--who suffer from the fruits of that enterprise. I don't know why this occurs--maybe it's just easier to justify oppressing those that are considered to be sub-human. But regardless, it's scary.
Only through a fundamental paradigm shift of the legal profession will any real change occur. Else, it will be back to business-as-usual, and in 20 years we can expect another legal civil conspiracy, made possible by the unholy alliance of FTT BigLaw and their criminal cult executive taskmasters.
For the Love of God, somebody throw a pie!
33, throwing a pie is a great way to disorient and temporarily incapacitate your opponent. While he is trying to recover, create distance and grab a chair.
"Res Ipsa" - worst ATL character yet. Please stop saying "FTT." I promise you will not get any traction on that.
30 - The only reason the blog is "getting attention" is because ATL needs five or six links for Non-Sequiturs. If you think run-on sentences, a complete inability to properly punctuate (if you can't use a semi-colon correctly, just don't use it) and using words that don't mean what he thinks they do is "quirky," you have serious problems. I don't care about typos - I ignore Elie's typos because it's a blog - but I do expect someone who is trained as a professional writer to actually know how to write. Sorry that you think my standards are too high.
Res Ipsa is an avatar made possibly only because of others. When arrogant hacks with self-aggrandizing messiah complexes stop resting upon their three-hour test performance or daddy's senior-partner status in order to degrade everyone else, there will be no need for Res Ipsa to exist. I'm not holding my breath.
When Atticus Finch gave his impassioned defense of Tom Robinson, he already knew that Tom Robinson's guilty verdict and subsequent death sentence was predetermined. The point of his defense was not to spare his client, but to ensure that everyone in the courtroom knew the truth.
I do not care about traction, notoriety, or pats on the back from red-cheeked, cigar-smoking corpulents in pinstripe waistcoats. The legal cesspool is unlikely to return to the profession it once was simply because I call it out. I only care that everyone hears the truth, even if they (inevitably) refuse to listen to it.
Wurtzel is a disgusting beast. Why she continues getting attention, I've no idea.