Associates and ‘Other Attorneys’ Lose Jobs, Partners Hold Steady
This shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone, but the National Law Journal reports that partners are successfully hanging onto their jobs despite this recession.
Associates and “other attorneys” are not:
Law firms since 2005 had increased the number of “other” attorneys — a category comprising counsel, of counsel, senior counsel and staff attorneys — to help handle boom-time business.But in 2009, they cut about 10% of those attorneys, for a loss of 1,113 lawyers. By comparison, NLJ 250 firms shed 8.7% of associates in 2009. This year, 46 “other” attorneys worked at the average NLJ 250 firm, compared to 50 the year before.
Yeah, it is not a good time to be an expensive senior counsel or of counsel that doesn’t bring in business. On the bright side, at least senior attorneys and counsel have a career track record they can market if they have been laid off.
Staff attorneys cannot say the same thing. Their troubles have been well documented. Staff attorney programs getting pinched because of the recession generally. And the increased reliance on outsourcing is a double whammy to staff attorney job security.
But after the jump, the NLJ reports that partners appear to be safe.
Associates and counsel might be hurting, but partners are holding up pretty well.
Partners fared better in 2009. This year, NLJ 250 firms had 0.9% more partners, a number that may well be little comfort to attorneys in the other categories, but one that nevertheless represents a marked decline in growth. …That partner numbers did not decrease is evidence that law firms sought to protect their biggest moneymakers in the downturn, Bower said.
Well, of course firms sought to protect their biggest rainmakers. But that fact doesn’t seem to tell the full story. Are all the partners rainmakers? If so, then why is there a need to cut these other categories of attorneys? If not, then why are those — non-rainmaking partners — being protected?
Altman Weil weighed in with this opinion:
“When you’ve got overcapacity, the first thing you get rid of are these extraneous groups,” said Ward Bower, a consultant with Altman Weil. He said that as business wanes, counsel and staff attorneys become less profitable, and, therefore, more expendable.
That makes a lot of sense. But is there a point where partners themselves become less profitable, and therefore more expendable? Hopefully the economy will recover before we have to answer that question.
For NLJ 250 firms, weak partner growth, while ‘others’ disappear [National Law Journal]




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Phirst
gibblefarts!!
NOT EVEN CLOSE TO FIRST
If you work hard, you will not be laid off.
Stop blaming your employment woes on selfish partners and start looking at the paltry sum of billable hours you claimed last year. Cogs: get to work.
Problem: Natural rainmakers don't make it rain on every race, gender, or sexual orientation equally.
Capitalism fail.
Solution: Seed clouds like China to influence the weather.
Communism win.
EQUALITY SECURE
Who is that cutie blonde staff attorney?
6,
As you will notice said attorney has been moved to sub-level B2 in the former janitorial closet. The janitor was let go so they had some room.
When times are tough, the tough makes their own opportunities.
Depending on someone else to ensure your success will only guarantee your failure. Get out there and make it happen on your own.
Well, that's as it should be.
Would dressing up as a Walrus for Halloween get me fired?
This is a non-story. However, I ran across this picture of the wise latina which I think should become the new stock photo of Sotomayor.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=2409939#post2409939
Three counsels I worked with at Kaye Scholer were laid off several months ago. They had 25 to 35 years of experience each, with many years at KS, and they were tossed under the bus without any warning. I had trouble understanding the sense of it, given that what they did took far more expeience than possessed by most associates at KS. I'm sure they would have taken a pay cut as an alternative to being laid off, but that apparently was not offered as an option. They are all sucking air right now, with mortgages and tuitions to pay. I've always thought KS was a shit firm, but I guess it eats it as well.
Altman Weil once again quoted for the proposition that associates need firing. Looks like they are earning the heap of cash partners spend on them rather than on marketing and associate and development.
Wow. So the owners of companies are firing their employees instead of firing themselves? Shocking!
13 FTW
13,
Fun fact: Altman Weil was also among those that encouraged firms to "leverage up" and hire many more associates per partner than they had done in the past.
Congratulations, you've uncovered the heart of the 'business consulting" gig. Advise firms to follow fashionable trends at high billing rates and profit.
The assertion that SAs somehow become LESS profitable in this market environment is 100% B.S! It's an insulting comment to justify otherwise terrible, baseless business decisions of managing partners to layoff SAs first whilst bending over backwards to retain less productive - and profitable - associates. Generally, SAs get billed out at an hourly rate the same as or very close to 1st-2nd yr associates (or in my case, 3rd yr) and generally are staffed akin to, and have similar min billable expectations as such associates (~2000 hr/yr). Thus just by being paid FAR less ann salary than said associates, SAs profitability is actually higher. And generally SAs may carry less overhead cost (no Blackberries, etc.) and have almost no upfront investment costs to hire (no summer program participation). There is simply ZERO economic justification for keeping and utilizing such 1st-3rd year associates over similiarly experienced or even more experienced SAs. PERIOD. The only justification is qualitative: they've invested more to obtain and retain said associates (summer programs, high salaries) and thus keeping them helps offset or otherwise recoup such investments as well as generate hope of large profitability over the entire long-term should said associates eventually make partner and generate new business.
14, you hit the nail on the head. The owners of a business aren't likely to lay themselves off first. It's only common sense to fire worthless associates who breath good air that should go to other worthy causes, like ass pounding secretaries.
If you don't like it, then start your own damn business.
Oh, and commenter 12, after 25-30 years as attorneys at a big firm, these "counsels" surely have plenty saved up (that was taken out of the partners' profits). And after 30 years in practice one would think they might have some skills to offer--if they aren't deadweight.
Why are black always angry and yelling?
No surprise here. Clients are not going to continue to pay $200+/r bill rates to have staff level attorneys do mindless tasks like low level document review, priv logs and babysitting contract attorneys. These are things that are best done using contract labor, paralegals, and low level associates. Staff attorneys serve no real function in today's firm structure and this is why these positions are being eliminated.
Most of the staff attorneys I ever met were miserable - they didn't enjoy their jobs and were treated as second class by the firm's managment. They shuffled around the halls like pariahs and we probably did them a favor by letting them go.
Dear Elie:
Please copy and paste this as a new post or you will not get your holiday turducken.
http://www.theconglomerate.org/2009/11/death-of-big-law-school.html
Sincerely,
Management
Let this article be a reminder that staff attorneys, associates, counsel and non-equity partners are expendable and interchangeable cogs. Does the captain of a company off himself on the battlefield to save a private? Of course not. If you want to blame someone, point your finger at the person in charge of the economy and job creation. Perhaps that person is too busy bankrupting our country with a ridiculous healthcare plan.
For once I agree with PE. The health care plan is ridiculous. They should just expand Medicare to cover everyone.
@ 19 -- can't wait to see you on the dole in the breadline too. These people are my parents, and are like your parents: trying to ante up and provide a better life for their family and support their kids. Sniveling self-entitled brats like you, probably fresh out of school and yet to understand the rigors, cost or joy of parenthood and "real life," should STFU and stop lecturing others who've been at this game usually far longer than and are left in financial dischord for far more noble reasons, like paying their kid's college tuition. Don't forget that for those 25+ years they haven't been making and are still not making the hefty unearned six-figure salaries of douche-bag associates like you. Let's see where you are and how much you've saved in a few years after continually blowing through all your take-home and bonus each year on those expensive german autos, first-class vacations, $100+/pp meals, nose candy and hookers we've watched you all partake like overpaid yuppie-scum lemmings.
I won't even bother touching your last flippant remark with a much-needed tutorial on age decrimination in the workplace.
Affirmative Walrus
What are your feelings about the University of Tennessee football players arrested for armed robbery? How long should the be suspended for? Should the be kicked off the team?
Why are black people always playing football and robbing white people?
In related news....water is wet. WTF kind of article is this?
Are partners even "employed" to begin with? Aren't they part owners of their firms?
Black people hate dogs and white people.
this thread had died. JaKe started off well, and a few others kept it afloat, but it's dead now.
Also, 29, don't end sentences in prepositions. IDiot.
What is the deal with this picture? What is it supposed to be showing and why is it an ATL staple?
More senior attorneys may have more experience and have some better chances to obtain new employment based on that experience, but only to a point. If one is not a partner with a book of business when one has 10+ years of experience, its extremely difficult to find a new 'associate' or 'of counsel' position.
Like the counsel 12 referenced, these counsel were 50-60 years old and getting laid off. That is very harsh. Unless these counsel have a particular niche practice, most firms won't want to hire someone that old when they can hire a much younger associate for probably half the cost, and who may be young enough to become a rainmaker (or at least still be practicing when the partner is looking to retire in 10 years).
Yeah, not surprising that firms let associates go, since they are usually 'at will employees' that can be released for any reason, rather than partners, who probably have a contract.
Why is Lou Dobbs standing in my office naked and soaking wet?
Wow, it must be such a rush to type some meaningless bigotry and publish it on the Web. Oh, I can sit here anonymously, and make generalist statements about black people, the authors of this site, and wtf, anything I feel like. Cause it makes my little 2 inch dick so hard when I see my wisdom in a comment on ATL for all the world to see. Stay classy! Also, did PE ever prove that he did not rape and murder a young girl in 1990?
4 - I see you haven't gotten any better looking. Didn't you have a part in Scarface? You look familiar.
Elie, firms don't have to fire partners when times are bad, they can just slash the draws of partners who are not performing. Keeping them as partners means their capital remains at the firm and they remain on the hook for the firm's liabilities. I'm sure Thelen and Heller would have loved to make lots of new partners in their dying days.
I am a staff attorney and sell real estate part-time. I haven't earned a commission in 15 months. Our branch office has failed to cover its fixed costs over the last year.
Our branch manager recently chewed us out. Then the regional sales manager gave us a Glengary Glenross type sppech. I interjected that I would close more deals by pretending to have a nine inch dick. Perhaps a similar strategy would behoove these laid off attorneys.
One important thing to keep in mind is that most large law firms have a large revolving debt facility and because the firms tend to be LLPs or LLCs, there is no general partner to take full recourse responsibility for this debt. Instead, the banks lending the money ask for a covenant that the firms not dip below a certain number of partners. If the firm does dip below that number, the debt is immediately callable (this is what happened to Heller). Because of this, firms are reluctant to let go of partners - believe me, the more successful partners would otherwise love to get rid of the guys who take more money out of the firm than they bring in.
God - there's a name from the past! As an ex-Thelenite, I can say that that law firm had the largest group of incompent management that I have ever experienced. It would have fared much better if it had gotten its employees from the local day care sandbox - attorneys weren't much better - they were a group of slackers who never left the law firm before its demise for any of those "sweat shops" where they might have to work hard, and thought the good do nothing times would last forever!
Can anyone tell me what Winston firm the other post is about? If was redacted, and I now know that it is about a firm called Winston something, but i dont know Winston what. I really need to know because there might be more than one firm with the name Winston in it, and I dont want to accidently accept a job to this Winston firm and intend to accept a job to another firm that is named Winston something else. Can anyone tell me what Winston firm the post is about? Thank you.
What's the deal with Winston's deferrals being too small? I'm disappointed in Winston.
Apparently Elie screwed up by posting the name of the law firm in the "deferral stipends" story, so ATL has closed the thread to prevent people from naming the firm over and over. Guess you'll have to do that posting here.
Winston & Strawn
44
Thank you for clearly identifying the Winston firm that was discussed. I will keep that in mind when I consider offers from Winston firms.
41
Elie's biggest problem is that he thinks people read this site to get his personal opinion and analysis about everything he posts, when the truth is that his opinions are less valuable than the average person. This post is a mess and so is the one about depressed lawyers. He seems to want to be some sort of active member in the opinion blogging community where people link to his posts and debate with him, but he doesn't have the intellect or experience in the world and nobody cares what he thinks. If he would just report the story people wouldn't be so hard on him.
My economic policies will save or create 4 million jobs. Unfortunately that will still leave 146 million of you unemployed. But this isn't about me. I have great health insurance.
I'm Barack Obama?
21,
To the contrary, if firms were smart, they would hire more staff attorneys, not less. As someone pointed out, they do similar work much more efficiently - no blackberries, shared offices/cubicles, no secretaries, no summer associate expenses, and lower salaries. This could all result in lower billable rates, but even at similar rates, they are more profitable than junior associates.
In addition, Staff Attorneys typically are former biglaw associates themselves, with diverse experience, and are capable of much more substantive work than you give them credit for. In some cases, they are not babysitting contract attorneys, but instead they are babysitting junior associates!
SAs can do legal research, factual research, portions of briefs, quantitative analysis, issue subpoenas, draft routine motions, settlement administration, judgment enforcement, etc.
In my opinion, if firms were smart, they would replace junior associates with staff attorneys. SAs could be promoted to associates upon merit when they prove their capability. And the cost/overhead reductions could be passed on directly to clients in the form of lower billable rates.
We are in deflation/economic contraction. And the rules of supply/demand dictate that if firms are not busy, instead of laying people off, they need to lower prices until the firm is back at full utilization rates.
This comment is addressed to Partner Emeritus.
1, Please, for the love of God, convince Lat to let you write a column here.
2, What are your thoughts on Ron Paul, particularly his foreign policy views?
27: black people are NOT "always" playing football and robbing white people.
35: I think 30 is being funny. Perhaps like 27 is being funny. Watch the words people use, carefully.
(and heads up: I, for one, am being ironic about 27's comments)
27:
It's disjunctive, not conjunctive.
25 has it absolutely right.
Why am I being robbed by a black person right now?
I was robbed by a black person this morning in my pajamas.
How he got in my pajamas, I'll never know.
These clever kids are killing me.