Wow. What darkness lurks in the hearts of men?

Well, I guess you can take the boy out of Harvard, but you can't take the Harvard out of the boy. When is the ABA going to step in and finally put a stop to this? Harvard is out of control!

Um, "impressive resume" for a kid who has done nothing in his life to date but go to law school. Wow, how impressive.

But hey, at least his rapsheet will start off with some impressive stuff.

"A recent arson conviction can’t be good for Schroeder’s New York bar admission."

Speaking of which, what are we looking at now, T-minus two weeks from New York bar results? When did they come out last year?

(yes, much more important than this jackass wrecking his life. No, wait, actually this story was pretty interesting. Yay schadenfreude!)

@5: Yeah, I gather NY bar results were released on Nov. 17 last year. The suspense is killing me!

What a jackass! I hope he gets disbarred and never finds employment again.

What fever dream is this that bids to tear this company in twain?

There's a reason that once people reach a certain age, they stop drinking heavy amounts and putting themselves in a position where their judgment is compromised. Unfortunately, for some, a life-altering decision must be that wake-up call.

"Drunken dare?" It was a 9 AM fire.

Never trust a Duke trust-fund douche-bag.

Harvard admitted this guy and Elie? What the hell is wrong with their admissions department?

Are we sure this bloke's to blame? Dozens of chapel memorials spontaneously combust each year. It's just not really widely reported.

"Brian Schroeder has an impressive résumé. The Texan graduated from Duke in 2005, having majored in theater studies, and went on to Harvard Law School. There, he was an editor of the Harvard Latino Law Review and a co-president of Lambda, a gay rights student group. He also took part in Parody, the HLS comedy show."

Kash, I think we need to have a sit down about what it means to have an impressive resume. I fear we may hurt your feelings in the process, so please bring tissues. My office in 20 minutes.

The Management.

Classic leftist elitist hater. I hope he winds up cleaning toilets at truck stops.

LeBoeuf, Heller, AND Sidley? Summer associate gigs before law school....I smell SEO Career Program. I'll stop there.

A drunk WASP burning a gay-rights [anything--billboard, volunteer tent, etc.] = hate crime.

A drunk gay guy burning a chapel = drunken dare.

oops!

I still don't understand why firms are willing to pay six figures for graduates of glorified degree factories like Stanford and Columbia. Anything outside the top two is neither prestigious nor elite. And just to be clear, I look down on you 'tards.

This dude majored in theater studies and got into HLS?!?

Shouldn't admissions automatically ding people who do bullshit majors?

- Philosophy major who didn't get into HLS (and who hasn't set fire to any memorials)

I dare you to name a more dominant quarterback than Brett Favre. His stamina and mental toughness is unmatched.

What a dufus.

21 -- you are neither funny nor topical.

what a complete loser. Bad decision, Harvard!

Didn't Sidley suffer a loss on 9/11? I seem to remember that either Sidley or B&W was in the WTC. I think this offer is toast no matter how the criminal charges are resolved.

Is Harvard Law ABA accredited?

whattt a TTT. worse than fordham

This now could be the most hated person in America. That's no easy feat. I crown him KING DOUCHE.

Impressive? The guy studied theatre. He then was able to seat Lucy two seats in front of Betty on a ridiculous LSAT puzzle game. This guy has accomplished NOTHING and is an absolute LOSER.

Does this guy speak English, or is he a swimmer? I don't care how drunk he got. The guy needs to spend at least a little time at Rikers and then be denied a law liscense for life. He can swim home with his buddies and eat some tacos.

I applaud this man's honesty. Most FTTs go on to destroy communities through enabling Ponzi schemes and other corporate criminal enterprises, evading all responsibility through self-dealt legal immunity courtesy of other robed blue blood FTT hacks. Schroeder cut out the middle man and attempted to destroy the community directly.

And since I'm in such an I-told-you-so mood right now, I'll add that Schroeder, like the other Ponzi-enabling BigLaw FTT hacks responsible for the plight in middle- and lower-class neighborhoods, was another example of a recipient of anti-meritocratic FTT admissions policies. Commenter 20 hit the nail on the head--ridiculous incest- and LSAT-based admissions policies create a behavioral sink of immature mental degenerates who couldn't problem-solve their way out of a paper bag. (But they can take an unrepresentative test REALLY well, which is great because the practice of law frequently involves sitting Adam, Betty, Claire, Danny, and Edgar in certain patterns based upon gender.)

David FTW.

Hey Brian -- There's some baby seals, here's a club, I dare 'ya.

Hey Brian --- Here's large cross and a match, and there's the lawn of the African American family that just moved in., I dare 'ya.

Hey Brian -- Here's Oliver Twist, there's his last bowl of gruel keeping him from starvation. I dare 'ya.

The independence aims 9/11. Fire hardens past the greedy cream. 9/11 distributes an immortal. The unrealistic plastic errs past a communist farmer. Why does 9/11 fly into whatever bargain? A poet bites a god under the reasonable spectacular. Fire entails 9/11 on top of another subsequent fool. The minimum directive constitutes fire beneath the port interior. 9/11 sounds like fire. Why does 9/11 ascend against the universe? 9/11 spells fire.

Is this what they mean when they say "flaming homosexual?"

At least he'll make way for another incoming associate.

Setting fire to his own career. Buh-bye.

One down, and thousands more to go.

"I would hope that a wise gay Latino man, with the richness of his experiences, would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life."

-- Sonia Sotomayor

Went to HS in texas with the guy... debate team with him (yes I am that cool) ...anyways he is one dark twisted SOB- I figured he would end up killing someone so I guess this is the lesser of the two evils... no one is dead...aside from his career.

wow, a gay minority ivy league grad torches a symbol of american patrotism and somehow this is news. you, atl, are and idiot

12, two words. Affirmative action.

So how do Rush and Hannnity tie this to Obama? I guess we will find out in a few hours.

34: Nice try but you mispelled PE's logon. Duh! Massive FAIL!

35 wins

At least he has that Duke theater degree to fall back on now that his legal career has gone up in flames

:-)

What an idiot.

I knew this guy at LeBoeuf. He made a list of restaurants that he wanted to try during the summer and if an associate or a partner asked him out to lunch he would send him his list of "acceptable" restaurants. If the partner or associate suggested somewhere else he would pass and tell them that he would wait for a better offer.

Where's the "smell the juciy insides" schtickster? Has he been overwhelmed by vapors or smothered by liquid caca?

How does every story turn into a thread about affirmative action? What is the excuse when stupid non-minorities get into HLS? Status quo? What exactly will it take for a minority to be "qualified" enough? I know - lets just never admit any minorities and then it will be totally fair and based on merit, just like the good old days.

THIS POST IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHY BIGLAW IS DYING. The fact that ANYONE would think this tool has an "impressive" resume is sad. And Sidley sure knows how to pick 'em!

Law firms and lawyers in general are much too quick to drool over some HLS grad, despite the dearth of any other real accomplishments.

What a flamer.

34 - this PE2 has been around for a while. We all know its not the real one.

Comment removed by moderator.

To say he is Latino is a huge overstatement, so please don't blame the Latino community for this one.

Also, do you realize how many students and graduates of no-name schools (like YOURS) do hateful things every day? I don't, but I'm sure there are plenty. It's just not newsworthy because it's not completely unexpected. You poor middle-of-the-pack-law-school graduates are always looking for any reason to chant "down with Harvard". It's really amusing.

I know that's going to set you off. Bring it. I AM smarter than you!!!

17= FOR THE WIN.

On the bright side, he'll have all the sausage he can choose from in prison.

Agree with you 54 -- I mean the guy's name is Brian Schroeder. How Latino does that sound? Is he "Latino" because he's from Texas and Texas is close to Mexico?

"Impressive resume" was sarcasm you humorless wanks.

Parents who groom their children to attend indoctrinating Ivy League and Big Ten schools should WAKE UP! It is not about you, parents. Research schools and send your children to colleges/universities that actually educate your children.

I think Kash was being sarcastic about his "impressive résumé."

What do you think some of the course titles are in a theatre studies major?

I cringe to think that HLS admissions saw "Radio: The Theatre of the Mind" and "Gender and Dance in Theatre" on his transcript and still accepted him.

I worked with this guy, he is very nice. This is really too bad.

This story confirms that the current generation of law graduates/attorneys is the worst. For the most part young attorneys are time bombs ready to detonate at any time just like this lad. The author of this article has no isea what "impressive" means. For example, a peer firm would have never hired this man. Yet it makes sense that the non-peer firm of SA extended him an offer of employment.

Is this an appropriate situation for killself?

54 is tough on the internet

Uh, 49:

I count one reference to affirmative action (41) and one implied jab (38). The latter is actually a somewhat clever takeoff on an instance in which a minority brandished her minority-ness as a supposed qualification, in contrast to us sorry tighty-whities.

Now, all the other references to this guy's degree in theatre studies and his editorship of the Harvard Latino Law Review are really a slam at affirmative action?

Do you think you're a little sensitive?

another fake "latino" lies about race to get into hls- so many of these types at the law school

OK...having sat on the sidelines for too long while reading posts and comments here, some thoughts:

What does this say about Sidley's hiring practices? Did noone there bother to google this kid or look at his facebook page?

How is he more qualified than the average Top 50 middle of his/her class grad struggling to find work and pay off crushing debts?

Does exercise of good judgment not count in hiring criteria? If I was a hiring partner and saw this kid's mug, tats or pictures on the web (and god knows what else), there is no way I would hire him once, let alone THREE times at BigLaw firms from coast to coast...

Forget the gay or Hispanic comments...How drunk do you have to be not to know (or forget) that Sidley did in fact have offices in the WTC on 9/11? How could he have summered there and received an offer without learning that, or forgetting it when drunk? He would have been a hoot at client dinners on his approved restaurant lists if he gets that stupid with a couple of drinks in him...

A red letter day for the reputations of HLS, Duke, Leboeuf, Heller and Sidley...

BIG LAW BIG LAW RAH RAH RAH

Non-Practicing Top 50 grad

He looks like the typical ultra-liberal, insufferable homosexual who wants to be cool. There was a douche just like him in my own section at HLS many years ago. Sadly all the others like him will still have a job tomorrow.

65

I'll make one. . . .This guy is as Latino as my Irish ass, but becasue his great great grandmother was Latino he gets to put that down and get into HLS. . . .reminds me of the South African (Dutch) rugby players who put African American (They had one parent that was American and one from South Africa)on their applications and got into all the schools they wanted even though they were mouth breathing knuckle draggers. I would have loved to have seen the admission peoples' faces when these hulking white dudes showed up for the first day of classes.

66 - you don't have to assume that he's a "fake" latino who lied about his race (although I'm sure you meant ethnicity, because you can't be that dumb) to get into HLS.

Newsflash: you don't have to be Latino to work on the Latino Law Review.

Have to fire him, right? If not for the damage to the firms' reputation, this jerk is unlikely to be admitted on time and he's going to busy with his own case for the forseable future. Can't believe any firm would keep this creep in this economy.

"Brian Schroeder has an impressive résumé. The Texan graduated from Duke in 2005, having majored in theater studies, and went on to Harvard Law School. There, he was an editor of the Harvard Latino Law Review and a co-president of Lambda, a gay rights student group. He also took part in Parody, the HLS comedy show."

Brilliant flame on Kash's part. State that the guy has an impressive resume and then list a bunch of joke major/activities the guy was involved in, knowing that the fact that he did at least attend Duke/HLS is enough for the flame not to be too obvious.

Commenter #54 (female HLS 1L):

Be honest with yourself, you were an AA admit.

I will be honest with myself, you ARE [emphasis is sarcastic and mocking of emphasis in your post] smarter than I am because you checked the URM box and your essay about how hard it was being a (insert race) female growing up in (insert middle-class suburb) was masterful.

Over the course of your academic career, how many times have you reused that essay?

54

By writing that drivel you have shown yourself to be not smarter than me. Thank you for making my Monday morning better. BTW grab me another coffee, two splendas this time or you are going to get my dry cleaning at lunch.

69

It still amazes me how clever people are in coming up with reasons why they didn't get into an ivy school. I've heard this one many times: I didn't get in because I wasn't able to claim minority on my application.

Please.

I can think of many other reasons you probably didn't get in just by reading your comment:

1. You're insecure. And insecure people are usually that way for good reason.

2. You're an idiot.

Didn't Sidley Austin hire Michelle (and Barack) Obama? What is it about this firm and the hiring of AA beneficiaries who hate America?

41:

Two words: White privilege.

75 = AA admit

First Department Admissions Interviewer ("Interviewer"): Looking at your background, I see that you have an arson charge.

Brian: Yes I do, but I graduated from Harvard Law School.

Interviewer: I see that, but over a 9/11 memorial. That is pretty offensive.

Brian: I agree. I was drunk. It was stupid. Did I mention I was a co-editor of the Latino Law Review?

Interviewer: I sense genuine contriteness. Besides, you graduated Harvard Law School. The name of the law school you graduated from is more important than nonsense like character and fitness. People will forget in a few years. It's not like you graduated from a diploma mill like Seton Hall or Brooklyn whose graduates are more fit to be in the Bronx Zoo. In fact, did you know that your Harvard diploma allows you to skip the line at Shake Shack. Welcome to the profession.

67, Even if those "tats" were real, what about tattoos display a lack of judgment? Perhaps they display a lack of a desire to conform on an aesthetic level, but that's it.

75

I got into the school of my choice, I was more pointing out a serious flaw in the AA process. People get to claim AA benefits who are not the intended target group.

Should the rugby guys have been able to claim AA status because they were African American or should they have not been able to claim it because they were white?

Should my friend be able to claim AA status as a Latino even though her family has been in the US since we were still part of the British Empire, is richer than God, and speaks no Spanish, solely based on the fact her ancestor wanted to find the City Gold?

Answer those questions for me.

-69

54 -

Harvard is great, nothing against them. I've met some really strong attorneys from Harvard (and some not so strong ones).

You'll find out just how smart you ARE, in January, when it turns out that the non-AA admits fried your ass like a buñuelo. By the way honey, what's your LSAT?

Brians a good guy. im sorta shocked to be reading this. NOT the kinda person youd expect to get into trouble like this.

and lay off about the impressive resume- they didnt say he accomplished everything he wanted to in life. They siad he went to Harvard and worked at some prestigious law firms. Jesus.

Whatta piece of shit this guy is.

Hate Crime! Hate Crime! Hate Crime!

82

Since she is an AA admit she will be allowed to utilize the remedial program to keep her in school.

54- Still waiting for that coffee

67--

Nope, character doesn't matter and never will to FTT-infested BigLaws. These are the same self-entitled hacks who enabled every corporate criminal enterprise of the last decade. And when they're caught red-handed (which often occurs because they don't know how to use a paper shredder without a secretary's assistance), they claim "I was just doing my job." I wouldn't be surprised if Schroeder was hired as soon as the economy began meaningfully turning--based upon his "impressive resume."

Schroeder is just one among many stories of self-entitled FTT blue bloods who end up in anti-meritocratic BigLaws through revolving-door aristocracy policies; the only difference is that his criminal behavior began much earlier in life.

I say again: why is it that hiring policies of mid-sized firms--which routinely screen for sociopaths through Google and Facebook (you know, responsible hiring that every other profession uses)--get shot down by elitist commenters on this blog, whereas the anti-meritocratic policies of Am100s--which are good only at creating a breeding pit for zombies dead from the heart up--are lauded? Because someone received a degree from an FTT institution, which means absolutely nothing in terms of ability to practice law or otherwise meaningfully function in a civil society? Plain, unadulterated hogwash that is only possible through a perpetuated systemic lie, of which Schroeder is a symptom. Take away the lie, and FTT-infested BigLaws will be revealed for what they are: the single most successful rackets in existence.

no, hes not starting at sidley this month. he elected to take the deferral and is supposed to start in Jan 2011

i doubt he was ever going to start at all, but he as shit aint gonna start now.

Pretty impressive resume--for an assclown. Kash, I do hope that comment was indeed sarcastic. And I also hope every bar he applies to refuses admission for this pretty serious crime. (People in NYC are up in arms about it, even labeling it a "hate crime"!)

Seriously, "theater studies" major? WTF? This is what's wrong with the legal system. (And AA/EO/'diversity'/whatever.)

Hate Crime! Hate Crime! Hate Crime!

Hate Crime! Hate Crime! Hate Crime!

Another fine example of affirmative action fail. Like GM.

79 equals bitter but funny Fordham Law grad.

Does anyone here actually take Partner Emeritus seriously? Though not a peer firm? Um, what firm are you at that you have nothing better to do than sit around and comment on every ATL post? I'd like to work there since apparently you're not very busy.

I mean no one really takes him seriously, right?

When you really think about it, what is the big deal about setting fire to a building that holds the ashes of people that were previously cremated?

Brian is a nice guy. It seems completely out of character for him to do something like this. Very sad.

I'm a partner is a large regional/national firm. I've been hearing for most of the year that the 2009 and 2010 law classes are inferior to those in prior years. I've heard that the 2010 and onward also look grim. The explanation given is that there are far too many law students, high grades are given out like candy, cheating is common, dishonesty is common, and that the average law student is someone who shouldn't be allowed to get a license. I don't know if all of this is true, but it's being passed around by consultants as if only a idiot would question it. I know that our summer associates have been less impressive than in the past, but that could just be the luck of the draw. Bottom line: The consultants are telling law firms to cut these classes loose as fast as possible, then hire laterals with a few years of experience.

94=new to ATL

58 is completely wrong. How in the hell does Kash have standing to mock a resume of someone who graduted from HLS?

Answer: She doesn't.

94 apparently does not understand the concept of "schtick"

First to ask (and I can't believe I'm the first) whether Kash ever fucked this guy while at Duke.

Yeah, I know he's gay, but often gay fellows dabble in the gash before they make their final decision to swing that way. Hey, I just realized gash rhymes with Kash.

So what's the story Kash?

65 - see above.

101

gay guys are frequently gay because they are unable to get a woman to sleep with them. any male declaring a major in theatrical studies already made the decision to swing that way.

in high school, guys used to set fire to 9/11 chapels all the time. it wasn't a big deal.

95

wrong. funny, but wrong.

This could really hurt Heller's recruiting in the future

Proving once again that Harvard is a first tier toilet.

95 - hehe.

Why is everyone talking about AA? How do we know he's even a minority? Because he was on the Latino Law Review? You don't have to be Latino to be on there idiots.

this guy isnt an assclown. he is a pretty bright kid from harvard. i dont knw why youre all acting like his drunken stupidity renders Harvard, Sidley, Everyone morons for ever admiring him. You think he walked around talking about burning down churches and thats what got him thru law school and into a law firm office?

such sensationalism. a kid ruined his career by acting like an asshole. its a shame. has nothing to do with affirmative action, or harvard, or law firms, or anything.

Can someone moderate the gay bashing on this thread? Comment 53 should be deleted.

Those of us who know Brian know he is a decent guy and obviously something has gone very wrong for him recently. I'm not making excuses for what he did, but whatever his motives, they had nothing to do with his sexuality. So please, moderator, do your job.

hahaha. lambda legal and latino law review. what a joke.

Um 103, I'm not sure what gay guys you've been cruising ('cause it sounds like you might have some closet issues), but damn near every gay guy I know is way hotter than the straight trolls that plague the Earth. It's a freaking crime against humanity, really - to be that hot and not want to breed. At any rate, good luck with the prostitutes. There's some trannies down by me that I'm sure you'd be into.

74, 86

That "get my coffee" comeback was really really good. You are so witty! I can see why you used it twice, just in case we missed it the first time.

82

Hey honey? What's your LSAT score? Because clearly I'll believe you.

106 = 180.

The funniest post in this entire chain.

This kid's a fucking idiot and should be thrown in jail. Although I went to a "peer school," (shout out to my boy PE), it always seems the HLS people are the biggest dipshits ever. 7 years of elite education and you still don't realize you cannot BURN BUILDINGS IN MANHATTAN?!?!?!? The fact it was a WTC relic just adds to the flame. The fact Sidley had offices there etc.... This guy's stats are indicative of an undeserving gunner who ran around the law school spewing criticism of what he perceived to be white male oppression whereas it was really his own shortcomings that made him inferior.

Sidley, you hired a guy who is an obvious loser, and I'm sorry, you usually see the signs before they reburn your fallen friends.

i knew him in college, and his gpa/lsat combo was well above the lawschool numbers line for harvard

Come on! Law schools are full of dumbasses like this guy. Every one of them think they are entitled and can walk on water. The disappointment is in the fact Harvard is held out to be this throne of legal jurisprudence. For that matter all the top ten schools are held out as such. I think they should stop calling the top ten law schools "law schools" and call them a**hole making factories.

being offered admission to HLS is impressive

movies are made about people who get in to HLS (and millions upon millions watch them)

& so to all who question whether this d-bag's resume is impressive, you're stupid

(obv this doesn't apply to Yls students, who obv turned down HLS & can shit on it as they please)

also most kids from duke @ hls are summa, unless they got in through AA

Can someone moderate the cock out of 111's ass?

thx

80 - You asked: "what about tattoos display a lack of judgment?"

Choosing to permanently alter your natural body demonstrates some form of judgement.

Some may consider it a good thing.

I consider it to show a certain amount of self-dissatisfaction. The problem (to the extent there is one) is not having self-dissatisfaction. Rather, it is choosing (at some point in the past) to permanently register that self-dissatisfaction for the world to see. That is what could potentially (perhaps commonly) be regarded as poor judgment by those making hiring decisions.

Yes, we all have warts. But those who advertise their otherwise private warts are less likely to get hired. It is just a fact of life.

And it takes either poor professional judgement or a lack of awareness to disregard a fact of life. Either of those could be a factor in a hiring decision.

Walter (not 67)

hls --> sidley

clearly bottom of his class

This is why you don't hire people that majored in "theater studies." WTF is that anyway? He watched some movies in college and they gave him a degree?

82,

I wasn't trying to be witty, I'm just not all that awake yet. Just trying to get 54 and her entitled ass used to the real world where she will be considered only good for getting coffee since she will have not understood anything taught to her in law school.

-Would send my secretary for coffee, but she's actually competent.

Not only does this not have anything to do with his sexuality, i dont think hes latino either. hes just a white guy who made a bad mistake and will pay for it for quite some time.

Theatre studies-->HLS??? This guy's education is about as practical as using Guitar Hero to actually learn how to play a real guitar.

124 -

I think the post you are responding to was written by 54 and (dispelling none of the stereotype to which she is subject), massively botched the adress/sign-off. I didn't write that "witty" post. 54 is an idiot.

- 82

119 -- movies are made about vampires, and yet i still fail to find them impressive

I also knew this guy in college. Word on the street was that he got a 180 on the LSAT. I remember him as a very thoughtful, intelligent, and nice person. It's an understatement to say that it shocks me that he did this.

what kind of douche releases to the world how much he got on the LSAT. Did he score all 5s on his AP exams too?

121,

So, a bunch of old douchebags have irrational hangups about tattoos, therefore getting them shows objectively bad judgment? I get it now.

117,

Well above?

I just want to say that I really appreciated the comments left by #35 and #38.

35 lmao!

This guy's onto something- Next time I beat up a homosexual, I'll just say it was on a dare, and not because I hate homosexuals.

actually, in a certain way, theater studies might be helpful if he wanted to be a trial lawyer and was a stage performer in college...trial lawyers are actors in front of judge and jury...not saying it's the best preparation for a legal career, but not necessarily worse than some other undergrad degrees that many law students have

Most people drink, many to excess, some repeatedly so, but they don't commit arson.

This assclown is going to need a new tat when he goes to prison. "Bubba's Bitch" seems appropriate.

As for 54, when the elite white left wing idiots running college and graduate school admissions departments finally come to their senses, the free ride for mediocre minority students is over. Affirmative action has unintended consequences. Most mainstream people question the qualifications and accomplishments of minorities because affirmative action removes the checkpoints for advancement through merit.

Many of you have poor logical reasoning skills. How did you ever get into law school? Huge failures! You deserve to be laid off and spending your time on abovethelaw.com just talking about the legal profession and not working as an attorney. This downturn has given us (partners) the opportunity to get rid of your sorry asses and start over with new recruits. We didn't just lay you off because times were slim, we let you go because YOU SUCK and don't deserve to work with us.

I think 139 was written by a 12 year old.

Wow, I've heard of people getting in trouble with the Bar for DUI and minor drug possession charges, but nothing as heinous as this.

It looks like this guy made a major mistake and will pay in the form of a stillborn career.

139, way to support your argument about poor reasoning skills you fucking dipshit.

139 - we suck because we don't try. and we don't try because we don't wanna become BIGLAW partners - wife-cheating, risk-averse, often fat/bald "men" who take orders from, and are bitches to, younger bankers

@ 143 - agreed

139 said, "Many of you have poor reasoning skills. How did you get into law school? Huge Failures!"

-So you're saying I'm a failure for getting into law school with poor reasoning skills? I call that a triumph. I think you're the one with the logic fail.

139 - and the downturn has given bankers/fund managers the opportunity to slash the exorbitant fees partners charge for managing paperwork and filling in brackets at the behest of bankers/fund managers

biglaw partners --> pathetic losers

139, spewing crap on ATL about associates spending too much time on ATL is a little hypocritical, don't you think?

139 - suck it! How's that for poor reasoning skills?

143 is correct

not a single 1st or 2nd year associate at my v5 firm desires to become a partner

bigger bucks, more prestige and respect at finance shops...biglaw is a stepping stone

139, what is your name and where are you a partner?

139-becoming a biglaw partner, now THAT's displaing poor reasoning skills. tell me, how much do you envy the bankers (your bosses) who get ass from all the hot women in the whilst you're stuck with the hideous lot of ivy law school grads

ps i know misspelled displaying, wondering if you're pathetic enough to point it ouit

The name Brian Schroeder gives me pause, but since he was an editor of the Harvard Latino Law Review, I feel confident calling this arrest racist.

152 - because every minority in law school "deserves" to be there. Sure.

52 - and homophobic

107--

Thank you for helping to carry my banner. You are far more insightful than the self-entitled, fungible FTT hacks thumping their chests as well as their egos on this blog.

139--

Though I doubt you are a real partner, your insight is correct nonetheless. Consider it a result of society's buying the Great Lie that FTT actually denotes merit and intelligence.

131 - I think you should continue to disregard what you personally believe to be the "irrational hangups" of others, purely for asthetic reasons (read: "for reasons that are essentially meaningless in the grand scheme of things"), even when disregarding those hangups may later affect your ability to get the job you want.

I will continue to regard that type of "irrational disregard" of the opinions of others as one possible indicator of poor work performance in a professional environment.

Holy shit 153, you have got to be the biggest fucking moron ever.

17 & 68 - Spot on!

35 & 38 - Hilarious!

Now we will have to hear about how he suffered because Matthew Shepard died and so did the boy/girl that Hillary Swank portrayed in that movie, and therefore, he can't possibly be responsible for this!

He was just responding to the hate he feels every day as a gay theater major (redundant) Latino tatooed HLS grad!

Those selfish 9-11 victims! Always thinking of themselves!

158 - your use of redundant is very funny

He was just trying to double-burn the little Eichmanns. Whatever.

Methinks 139 hit a nerve

- Not 139

Me thinks 139 perhaps meant to hit that nerve and stir up a hornet's nest. LOL!

-not 139 or 161.

Me thinks biglaw partners are losers!

-not 1-162

163 is a laid off attorney like the rest of us.

NY Daily News has him doing a perp walk. Nice.

The really sad news is not the fact that this loser flushed his legal career down the toliet. The really sad news is he is going to wind up making my lattes in the morning and will probably screw that up as well.

156,

I'm sure you will continue to regard tattooed people in such a way, and that you will continue to feel justified in doing so.

I don't see why you have to base your judgment on the fiction that people with tattoos are somehow disregarding your opinions. Maybe they think your opinions are valid, but have their own opinions, and expect you to be open-minded.

At the end of a day, I don't think that a standard for good work performance in a professional environment that excludes hundreds of thousands of people in 20s and 30s is a just one.

rescinded

I knew Brian vaguely. A little odd... but seemed like a nice guy. This is a shock.

139= Firm that advertises on subway.

Wow, Lat looks really ripped in the new ad.

Has anyone considered that he was actually--merely--engaged in performance art? He was a theatre studies major. From Duke, no less.

@69 I totally used my Black Irish ancestory to secure my AA status.

The serious thing is this boy needs to be put in prison for a good long time. Arson is a serious offense, and he couldn't have burned down a worse structure.

@ 131. Objectively bad judgment? Yes. Or more precisely, a cautionary flag that raises questions about the potential for other episodes of bad judgment (such as ... say, burning things). Let's face it, aside from the top and bottom ~15% of lawyers, there isn't a HUGE amount of difference in aptitude that can't be trained around. I teach associates how to write, how to prepare witnesses, etc., etc.

But I still have to take a lot of things on faith - that the associate won't ignore an opposing motion, that the associate will treat clients with respect, etc., etc. My faith is a little stronger knowing that an associate conforms with behavioral expectations that are the norm in -- let's face it -- a very conservative profession. My clients come to me with problems, and they want a sober, serious lawyer who will treat their problems with care and diligence.

And that's why image DOES count. In addition to BEING competent, a lawyer should APPEAR competent -- if only for the purpose of comforting a very nervous client. And in this universe, competence is (perhaps erroneously, I concede) correlated with conservative dress & appearance. And while the law students may laugh at it, putting on a suit & tie helps reinforce my focus. I wear play clothes when I play with my kids; I wear work clothes when I'm suing people.

While there may be clients who prefer younger, hipper lawyers, they're on the margins. Likewise, I know I may miss the opportunity to hire a truly stellar legal mind by virtue of my prejudices -- but that's a consequence I'm perfectly willing to accept. Finally, if you think your personality is so ill-formed that it's defined by a tattoo or two, I suspect you wouldn't be happy at my shop.

-- ET! (who's actually hiring right now, market notwithstanding)

P.S. 67 is right - it shows unf*cking-believably bad judgment to set fire to a 9/11 memorial if you're working at Sidley. Even if it was an aberration, it was such an enormous one as to disqualify him from ever earning my respect.

@96,83,117,129

Hey Bri!
Looks like your dirt poor Mexican family was finally able to scrape together the dinero and get your ass out of jail! Maybe you can tell everyone that you're just "taking a year off". A little prison advice: join the Latin Kings.

@96,83,117,129

Hey Bri!
Looks like your dirt poor Mexican family was finally able to scrape together the dinero and get your ass out of jail! Maybe you can tell everyone that you're just "taking a year off". A little prison advice: join the Latin Kings.

Brian is a sweetheart. Anyone who claims to know him and says different is full of it. What he did is terrible but totally out of character, and mystifying to anyone who actually knows him.

He was also plenty smart to be at HLS, and those tattoos aren't real, so let it go. They were part of his Halloween costume. Even if they were, they hardly support halfassed arguments against the law firms who hired him.

Harvard and Sidley saw a smart, charismatic young man with -yes!- a quite impressive resume for someone just coming out of school. Admitting and hiring him were totally reasonable decisions.

To all of you who get your jollies by shitting on strangers on the internet, take a moment and think about that. I bet you could improve your sad little lives quite a bit if you redirected some of that energy.

Perhaps I was a bit too sarcastic in my comments above, but the larger point is that reference checking and discernable exercise of good judgment are parts of the hiring process within the control of Big Law firms. Further limiting the applicant pool to those within the top 10% of the Top 20 schools is, in my opinion, very limiting, and, at the end of the day, a disservice to firm clients. One hopes that for clients' sake, supervision, training and management of associates is done with more care than some parts of the hiring process...At $250 - $500 / hour Big Law firms bill clients for first year associates' time, nothing less is acceptable...

@67

"Dude, we are so wasted... Hey, I dare you to desecrate the remains of some 9-11 victims."

"You're on."

@178

Gosh! You're so right! WE'RE the assholes! I should go make friends with someone who burns down gravesite memorials of terrrorist attack victims. I could really learn compassion from someone like that! After all...he was the REAL victim, being triple dog dared and roofied and all.

Look up "fingerscrossed" on lawschoolnumbers.com; that's Brian Schroeder's profile for the 2004-2005 application season.

He had a 3.68/179, although he lists "PoliSci" as his major, not theater studies.

Bad news for chrometatroll. One less timekeeper at Sidley.

This thread is classic.

Other than being on the Latino Law Review (which is NOT limited to Latino editors), there is zero indication that this guy is latino.

Yet it devolves into a rant about AA.

It appears that this guy's tattoos (if you read the article and take it in context) were simply drawn-on for Halloween. Yet, everyone assumes he is tattooed and discussion of that ensues.

Bottom line: This has nothing to do with AA. It has nothing to do with his Tattoos. It has nothing to do with Sidley Austin (even if he did have tattoos at the interview and over the Summer, I would bet all the money in the world that he covered them up).

Unless the guy had an angry blog talking about setting fires, or a criminal record, this was bad luck of the draw. The guy had a rough night, and did an incredibly stupid act.

Sidley will fire him. He'll probably spend 6 months in jail, 2 years probation, and wind up working for a small Long Island litigation firm or something when he finally passes character and fitness.

@184 You're making me laugh. He will never pass Character & Fitness thiis kind of shit on his record.

"Um yeah...well, there was this time I desecrated the remains of some September 11th victims...

173,

I wish I had thought of that. I was thinking of coloring my hair red and applying for AA as a historically under-represented ginger, but then I found out AA is all about skin color and nothing else.

Walt and enjointhis: Thank you for the thoughtful comments. They are welcome and, frankly, much needed.

@178: if the tattoos are fake and a Halloween costume, is it not too much to ask to refrain from posting them on Facebook or some other social networking site, where everything is forever, especially days (or months) away from your start date and character committee approval process. It shows poor judgment at best, and also a disregard for how tough it is for firms to compete for clients' business these days.

@ Others commenting on tattoos: More experienced attorneys (and clients) attitudes towards them are a reality in this world and posing with forearms baring tattoos may not be the best choice for an incoming 1st year associate.

@ Commenters with snarky comments about 9/11 victims: It is hard to believe to my old, tired eyes that many attorneys in their mid-20s (and older) can be so callous about an event which touched so many people in NYC, and which is still very much an emotional subject. In your professional careers and personal lives (I'm speaking to those of you new to NYC), you will continually meet folks who were personally affected by this tragedy, regardless of your political stripe, and failure to be considerate with comments about 9/11 in NYC could be very costly professionally, personally or could just buy you a punch in the nose in a bar from an out of uniform cop, fireman, or loved one of a victim...Hard to believe it needs saying amongst the elite here, but, sadly, apparently it does...

Walt and enjointhis: Thank you for the thoughtful comments. They are welcome and, frankly, much needed.

@178: if the tattoos are fake and a Halloween costume, is it not too much to ask to refrain from posting them on Facebook or some other social networking site, where everything is forever, especially days (or months) away from your start date and character committee approval process. It shows poor judgment at best, and also a disregard for how tough it is for firms to compete for clients' business these days.

@ Others commenting on tattoos: More experienced attorneys (and clients) attitudes towards them are a reality in this world and posing with forearms baring tattoos may not be the best choice for an incoming 1st year associate.

@ Commenters with snarky comments about 9/11 victims: It is hard to believe to my old, tired eyes that many attorneys in their mid-20s (and older) can be so callous about an event which touched so many people in NYC, and which is still very much an emotional subject. In your professional careers and personal lives (I'm speaking to those of you new to NYC), you will continually meet folks who were personally affected by this tragedy, regardless of your political stripe, and failure to be considerate with comments about 9/11 in NYC could be very costly professionally, personally or could just buy you a punch in the nose in a bar from an out of uniform cop, fireman, or loved one of a victim...Hard to believe it needs saying amongst the elite here, but, sadly, apparently it does...

@67

79 for the win.

I attended a top 10 school. I would estimate that over half of the AA admits came from well-off families. A few real AA admits made it through, and it was great to have them around. But if your parents are doctors, do you really need that extra push to get into a top school?

YAY! Now that Yale first-year from Quinn who emailed his lower-case disdain for the firm's Washington Redskins victory is no longer the least employable Ivy grad in history.
A true victory for Yalies everywhere! We're #2!! WooHoo!

He was actually a really smart guy school-wise. Valedictorian of his high school, even though he coasted the whole senior year. (and it was a decent and large school). I thought he was a nice enough guy, and yet this does not completely surprise me.

As someone who knew Brian well at HLS, I'd say this is completely out of character for him. He is a nice, sweet guy -- this was clearly an instance of out of control, drunken behavior. It doesn't make his behavior excusable, but it is a damn shame, and it makes me sad to read about.

To all the posters out there who want to chalk this up to bad hiring decisions on the part of firms, or a bad admissions decision on the part of HLS -- I think this is incorrect. This was out of character for Brian -- no way to predict such extreme and irresponsible behavior. I think the desire of some people on these message boards to try to extrapolate all sorts of things -- about AA, HLS, Big Law, Life -- from one, small example makes for some pretty shitty analysis.

This event boils down to be simple tragedy -- for the famalies of 9/11 victims, for Brian, and for all of us. Sad.

This guy is the reason law schools need to start interviewing applicants. This freakshow would have been turned away after 30 seconds. Church burning or not, he would have ended up in some kind of state-funded institution

I don't know this guy, but it's at least possible that he's Latino on his mom's side -- ever consider that? And by the way, being Latino and being white are not necessarily mutually exclusive. Latino = ethnicity, not race.

There has been plenty of immigration to Latin America from places other than Spain and Portugal. Here is a somewhat random list of decidedly non-"Latin"-sounding names of the leaders of various countries over the years --
Mexico - Fox
Panama - Martinelli
Ecuador - Mahuad
Argentina - Kirchner, Menem, Rawson, Pellegrini
Chile - Bachelet, Aylwin, Pinochet, Alessandri
Guatemala - Berger
Brazil - Geisel, Medici

I don't know this guy, but it's at least possible that he's Latino on his mom's side -- ever consider that? And by the way, being Latino and being white are not necessarily mutually exclusive. Latino = ethnicity, not race.

There has been plenty of immigration to Latin America from places other than Spain and Portugal. Here is a somewhat random list of decidedly non-"Latin"-sounding names of the leaders of various countries over the years --
Mexico - Fox
Panama - Martinelli
Ecuador - Mahuad
Argentina - Kirchner, Menem, Rawson, Pellegrini
Chile - Bachelet, Aylwin, Pinochet, Alessandri
Guatemala - Berger
Brazil - Geisel, Medici

@ 185

I know multiple people with violent felonies who passed C&F. They are far more concerned about patterns of fraud, dishonesty, and unethical behavior than individual crimes committed.

Certainly, they will "delay" this guy's passing of the bar exam. Certainly they will interview him and ask all kinds of questions. But the bottom line is that this guy got drunk and make a horrible, horrible judgment. He didn't lie about it (in fact, he turned himself in). He doesn't (seem to) have a criminal record.

My guess is that once he gets out of jail and off of probation, within 24 months he will be admitted to the bar. However, finding a job will be another question entirely . . .

@193 You're making me barf. "A simple tradgedy"?
Uh really? Tell me, what's simple about intentionally setting a church ablaze holding the remains of ANYONE , much less people who have yet to be identified becuase their bodies were already burnt beyond recogniton? The best part comes when he blames it on booze- even better- a rape drug. What an upstanding member of our society.
Try telling anyone who is met with the horror of identifying the charred remains of their husband, daughter, son, etc. that this is a "simple" mistake.

Indeed, it is "in his character" to be a depraved and thoroughly criminal individual if had the gall to commit such a heinous act sober or not.

191 - YALE IS #1

Are we sure he went to Duke? He looks a lot like a guy by that name who gradutaed from WashU in '05 and Harvard in '09...

Here is the reason why you’ve reached out to Schroeder but have not yet heard back. He is drugged, naked and bound upside down on my bed.

yes yale is #1 199- your students get chopped up and stuffed into crawl spaces.

@184/197. You're probably right about him passing the bar & his future career arc. [Full disclosure: I've done work for my state's C&F cmte. & have seen a lot... Turning himself in was exceptionally prudent.]

@ others. It's axiomatic that drunk people do stupid things. But I've always thought that intoxication brings out otherwise latent behaviors still extant but otherwise suppressed by civilized society. I wouldn't want to work with an attorney who used the "N word" or the "F word" (for orientation) when intoxicated, because to me that signals an underlying fundamental disrespect for those groups. Similarly here.

@ AA/Lamda haters. Now, really. Unfortunately, Kash may have included that stuff for cheap-shot purposes (although I'd prefer to think not). Still, it's foolish to equate bad judgment with lack of intelligence. The former is present in spades, but there's *no* evidence of the latter. And I happen to know that HLS students are pretty damn smart. Now if they could only develop a standardized test for wisdom...

For law students (many readers, I suspect), Mr. Schroeder has just become an object lesson on the consequences of uncontrolled intoxication &/or reckless choices. It's a shame he had to sacrifice his career to inform others. See http://www.despair.com/mis24x30prin.html

@187/188. Thanks. Most commenters are pretty juvenile, but like it or not, they'll probably be fellow members of the Bar. Maybe they'll read the sensible comments and incorporate them, maybe not. It's sort of like puppy training, I think?

-- ET!

Fucking douchebag, that's all that there is to say about the guy fucking douchebag

@ 184, 197, 203
Indeed, turning himself in was prudent. But is blaming his actions on his inebriated state and even being so cowardly as to throw in a roofie or two - therefore claiming he is a victim- prudent? I think not. Turning oneself in and hen making up lame excuses is half -assing it. Don't be fooled. He's only turning turning himself in because he knew he would be caught and wants to have something in his favor when he faces the wrath of the judge , not to mention the public. If the NY bar allows him to practice, shame on them. As a fellow HLS grad, I don't want to be affiliated with this cowardly bottom feeder.

@ 184, 197, 203
Indeed, turning himself in was prudent. But is blaming his actions on his inebriated state and even being so cowardly as to throw in a roofie or two - therefore claiming he is a victim- prudent? I think not. Turning oneself in and hen making up lame excuses is half -assing it. Don't be fooled. He's only turning turning himself in because he knew he would be caught and wants to have something in his favor when he faces the wrath of the judge , not to mention the public. If the NY bar allows him to practice, shame on them. As a fellow HLS grad, I don't want to be affiliated with this cowardly bottom feeder.

More evidence that Texas sucks.

Affirmative Walrus = best character ever.

I am an 09 HLS grad who was the Editor-in-Chief of the Harvard Latino Law Review, and have never met or heard of this guy. We only have about 15 people on our staff...

195- you're an idiot

196- i agree 100%- outstanding contribution

I see PE has gone back to his diet of two tabs of blotter in the morning

For all of you accusing others of homo bashing.......if some white frat boys burned a rainbow flag or called someone a nasty name, you would all be calling the ACLU.

There is such a double standard in this country. A gay lawyer can shout (or, as he claimed "sing") "I hate the police" in front of a hostile crowd and when he is arrested for disorderly conduct, all of a sudden it is "anti gay" behavior.

Just wait, I give this clown 5 days before he claims he was arrested because the police were anti: fill in the blank (gay, Latino, theater majors, etc. etc.). I, for one, am anti-arsonist.

Perhaps this is the wrong euphemism to use in this scenario, but we need to "man up" in this country and start taking some responsibility for our own actions.

Nothing happened here... If you chose to get hurt over Brian's actions, then you have no one else to blame but yourself. Carry on... Cheers.

Who hangs out with people who slip you roofies anyway?

i'm pretty sure that shirt is not a harvard related shirt.

enjointhis said: "And while the law students may laugh at it, putting on a suit & tie helps reinforce my focus. ... While there may be clients who prefer younger, hipper lawyers, they're on the margins."

Agreed. A story:

A few years ago, one of my clients was approached by an opposing party seeking...money--a lot of it. This was a high profile matter, with many lawyers and client personnel assigned to it. We showed up to the first meeting in suits. The opposing party?...no coats, no ties, just trendy shirts with the top and second buttons undone, collars splayed....

After dealing with them, I believe they thought their casual approach to an otherwise high profile (and very high dollar) negotiation made them look like mavericks...perhaps a little dangerous.

Instead, I thought it made them look amateurish.

Worse, my client assumed (rightly or wrongly) that their casual dress (in violation of industry norms for such discussions) was a calculated showing of disrespect for him and his company. (I'm sure those industry norms were established by a bunch of "old douchebags" 131, but there you have it).

Not a good way to start a negotiation.

It takes good judgment to anticipate and account for the "irrational hangups" of others, and to work those hangups for the benefit, or at least not to the detriment, of your client. It takes good judgment to resist your aesthetic impulses to increase your ability to employ yourself.

-Walter

if this clown (perhaps with pretty far above average intelligence) was actually roofied, which is a horrible excuse for someone of such a high intellect, he would have been passed the fuck out. that's what roofies do. they don't make you get all silly billy, and have the wherewithall to methodically set a building on fire. Coke and crystal meth do.

not sayin that's what he was doin, but it certainly wasn't the date rape drug in that system!

Can someone explain what "I totally just read" means ?

Right - a gay latino with tats.

Sidley hit the jackpot with diversity points there.

Let's see he allegedly

1) Breaks into a NYC owned building
2) It is a Chapel
3) It is the Chapel for 911 Families exclusively
4) It contains mementos left by families for 911 victims and is next to the morgue containing 911 remains
5) Starts a Fire
6) It destroys mementos and causes damage to the chapel

I think he deserves the ultimate dumb sh*t award for pissing off the 911 Families, the Mayor, the NYPD, the FDNY, and the pool of potential jurors.

Above all will now have the pleasure of sitting across from some asst DA who didn't graduated from Duke or Harvard and had to pay his own way.

Priceless!

Elie went to Harvard?

Elie got into a college?

OK, can we all admit that radical homosexuals have a deep hatred for America and Americans? Can we all admit that now. They are on the side of our enemies, which makes them our enemies. It is not really me making this statement, their actions speak for them. I'm just noticing what their actions are saying.

To all those who claim that anyone' actions are ever "out of character" you are just plain wrong. Since they committed those actions they are obviously IN that person's character. It would be more correct to say "I thought I knew that person but apparently I didn't, I never thought he would have done such a thing but apparently he would and did do such a thing. I guess I'm not a good judge of character". Look, I'm sure that many people who crossed this guys path could see him for what he was, those that couldn't should ask themselves what it is about themselves that made them blind to it.

I wonder if he will get murdered in prison? Bloomberg will definitely win reelection if he offers an early release to any inmate that stabs him with a sharp toothbrush. I wonder how many people will line up to take a shit on his grave.

Yep, nothing at all wrong with Latino fags. Let's hire more of them! Affirmative action for the win!

I feel bad for all the people named Brian Schroeder--not an entirely uncommon name--when potential employers google that name.

- Brian C. Schroeder (not at HLS)

How long does one stay bitter about being rejected from HLS? It appears people stay that way for years and years. Move on with your lives. There is life after HLS.
Although, life seems sweeter for us who did make the cut!

222 - you are a moron. The actions of one gay schmuck has nothing to do with the gay community. There are plenty of patriotic gay and lesbian Americans who serve and have given their lives in military service for the USA. Did you fail to notice that domestic terrorist, Timothy McVeigh, was heterosexual? With your logic, we can assume that straight people hate this country and have it in for democracy!

Moderator - comment 225 should be deleted.

Enough of these insidious rants about gays wanting to desecrate the memory of 9/11. This tragedy did not discern between gays and straights, it affected everyone. If you were in those towers, you died. The Fire Department Chaplin who died while giving last rites to a fallen firefighter was a gay man. There were gay EMS workers, firefighters, and police who acted heroically and did not all survive. Gay people lost spouses, parents, siblings and dear friends in this horrible tragedy. The idiot who set this chapel on fire happened to be gay. He happened to be a lot of other things too. His actions only speaks for himself, no one else.

@230 - and abortion activists who blow up clinics do not sum up all who oppose abortion....

Goes both ways (haha, see what i did there).

The Parody sucks.

We hired this guy shortly after LeBoeuf implemented its "all-loser" policy for summers. We looked at the schmucks from the Ivies who nobody else would touch and said, "hey, this is an untapped market! Let's pay them shitloads of money to do work they have no desire to do and will fail at even if they try! Which they won't! Genius!"

His hostility to the 9/11 victims fits with the firm's practice of defending against 9/11 based insurance claims and prosecutions of terrorists and their financiers. So we wanted to capture some synergies there. In retrospect, it seems inevitable.

PS: We are definitely not even remotely going bankrupt so don't even think about it.

I am a Duke alumnus (undergrad only).

This guy is a douche all the way. His action (alleged action) is despicable.

I'm a lifelong New Yorker who watched the towers fall barely a quarter-mile away from where I stood, barely able to breathe. So I take the tragedy of 9/11 very seriously. But I also knew Brian at HLS and he was nothing but a kind, friendly person. It seems like he made a terrible, terrible mistake while intoxicated. Is that blameworthy? Of course. Should it be illegal? Of course. Does it make him some kind of monster? Of course not. In fact, I continue to believe that Brian is fundamentally a good guy.