Snooki Jersey Shore NYU Law.JPGAs a denizen of New York City, I find that I have to deal with people who could be cast members on The Jersey Shore all the time. They clog up my 4 train when the Yankees are playing. They bounce at bars and clubs. Here in the city, you can even see them in their natural habitat, Gold’s Gym.
That’s why I was surprised when students at NYU Law School offered $2,000 in an unsuccessful attempt to get Snooki to come out and party with them. Why buy the landfill when you can get trash for free?
But in the hearty Midwest, it’s a little easier to understand why the cast from Jersey Shore can be so compelling. I mean, from the perspective of a Midwesterner, the cast of Jersey Shore must look like an alien species. I bet a Midwesterner would look at J-WOWW with the same level of fascination I’d regard Michele Bachmann. “What does it eat?” “Can I pet it?” “If I use a sentence comprised entirely of polysyllabic words, will its head explode?”
So, I have a modicum of understanding for the underground movement happening at the University of Wisconsin Law School. Here’s part of a letter that Above the Law received yesterday:

Dear AbovetheLaw,
I am a third-year law student at the University of Wisconsin Law School. My graduation is fast approaching and so far we (my classmates and I) have not heard who is going to be our guest speaker. However, the last thing I want to hear during my graduation is how great we are for becoming young lawyers, and that we have such a promising future ahead, especially considering our employment options currently. Instead a couple of classmates and I have come up with this great idea. If our futures are going to dissolve following graduation, we want to go down “guns blazing.” We want to raise money in order to bring the cast of Jersey Shore to come as our guest speakers.

Wasn’t this the setup for The Simple Life?
Are the Wisconsin students serious? More details after the jump.


Wisconsin law school.JPGNow, you know that people like Mike “The Situation” would do this. I mean, did you see the finale? I won’t spoil it, suffice it to say that if you are going to hit that in a hot tub, you’re willing to do just about anything.
The Wisconsin students are accepting donations “from all over the nation” in order to bring the cast to Wisconsin. We know that will be expensive. Appearance fees for some of the individual cast members run as high as $10,000.
I am, of course, dodging the 800 pound gorilla in the room here. The obvious question is: What — the F*** — can the cast of Jersey Shore possibly have to say at a law school graduation that is relevant in ANY WAY? I’ll allow that most commencement speakers don’t have particularly useful things to say. But Wisconsin law students would be better served getting a chimp to get up there and throw feces at them. At least the chimp would prepare them for life as a junior associate.
Maybe this is all a clever attempt by Wisconsin students to get dibs on the all of the legal business these people are sure to generate over the course of their lives. Especially after they crash and burn. If you don’t think there is a steroids bust waiting in Ronnie’s legal future, you just haven’t been paying attention.
Sorry Wisconsinites. I understand your fascination with these people, but there have to be more appropriate commencement speakers for you. I’ll bet that Mayor McCheese is not only available, but can provide some quality advice on what to do with your law degree.
Don’t forget to tell us who is speaking at your law school graduation: tips@abovethelaw.com, subject “Commencement.”
Earlier: Jersey Shore at NYU Law?

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  1. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 2:51 PM

    Zeroth

  2. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 2:52 PM

    Good post Elie!

  3. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 2:53 PM

    Elie, are you really a NYer? The 5 train doesn’t go to Yankee Stadium.

  4. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 2:55 PM

    If you really want to immerse yourself in jersey shore, take the 9pm friday evening Long Island Railroad train from Hempstead.

  5. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 2:55 PM

    Dear god she’s fucking hideous.

  6. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 2:56 PM

    Please moderate the snooki photo. It’s offensive to men and women.

  7. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 2:58 PM

    Dear god she’s fucking hideous.

  8. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 3:00 PM

    Cue anti-Italian bigotry comments in 3…2…1…

  9. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 3:00 PM

    Somebody should punch her in the face for looking like that.

  10. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 3:02 PM

    The whole state of Wisconsin is a joke.

  11. Posted by Partner Emeritus | January 26, 2010 at 3:03 PM

    Practitioner’s tip for U. of Wisconsin Law grads:
    I have been to your state twice in my life. I would rather be marooned without food in Tierra del Fuego than set foot in your state again. No honorarium fee, 5 or 6 figures, would convince me to speak to your kind. Save your money for your life has seen the end game…yesterday.

  12. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 3:03 PM

    She looks like a Cabbage Patch whore.

  13. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 3:04 PM

    She looks like a Cabbage Patch whore.

  14. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 3:07 PM

    More articles about partner suicides please.

  15. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 3:10 PM

    Wasn’t she the one who was shot in Philly last week?

  16. Posted by HofstraMagna | January 26, 2010 at 3:14 PM

    Jersey Shore is awful. They should have done the show about some place nice, like Montauk and made me the star of the show.
    By the way, did anyone notice that the Jets made it to the AFC championship game with a rookie QB? Sanchez will win 5 Super Bowls. Get on the bandwagon now. If I’m not mistaken, Elie said before the season started that the Jets would be good, yet the haters still continue to bash him.

  17. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 3:19 PM

    At my law school, they almost always picked some tort-lawyer alumnus who made a lot of money (and gave a lot of it to the school) and then told everyone that the students had selected the speaker. It was a riot.

  18. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 3:19 PM

    Vinny wanted to go to an IVY law school:
    http://perezhilton.com/2010-01-26-jersey-shores-vinny-heading-to-yale-or-harvard-law
    But did this instead.

  19. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 3:26 PM

    If you want to feel better about yourself and proud of your achievements, even if you haven’t done anything you think is worthy lately, you absolutely need the cast of the Jersey Shore around you.

  20. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 3:27 PM

    I wonder if she does anal?
    -guy who wonders things

  21. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 3:31 PM

    “If I use a sentence comprised entirely of polysyllabic words, will its head explode?”
    Oh, the ironing!

  22. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 3:32 PM

    22-
    It’s an extra 20

  23. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 3:34 PM

    Snooki has a greater propensity to be gainfully employed over the next year than most 3L’s could hope for (and she didn’t waste three years of her life and burn through 200K either).
    And, if this Jersey Shore gig ends, Snooki could be hired as PE’s secretary or firm receptionist.
    Vlad

  24. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 3:40 PM

    I would probably pound her in the ass and then punch her in the face, or vice versa, whatever.
    -guy who likes to pound things

  25. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 3:44 PM

    Elie, this is a great post. The first paragraph was really funny and very true.

  26. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 3:44 PM

    “I’ll bet that Mayor McCheese is not only available, but can provide some quality advice on what to do with your law degree. ”
    This is the single funniest and most insightful thing that Elie has ever written. Granted that it is a low bar, but still, good show big guy.

  27. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 3:51 PM

    Compared to the Spring 2007 Graduation Speech, she will likely appear well spoken!

  28. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 3:52 PM

    PE, Tierra del Fuego has been inhabited for ten thousand years, and Ushuaia – the capital – is home to more than 64,000 people. Why don’t you stop being an ignorant troll and start studying once in a while, you fucking troll student monkeyfuck retarded vaginal discharge. Maybe you can even get a job in the NJ public defender’s office when Seton Hall finally shits you out.
    How would I ever survive in this wilderness without food? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ushuaia6a_(js).jpg

  29. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 4:01 PM

    This is untrue. WI governor Jim Doyle is our Graduation Speaker. – UW 3L

  30. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 4:01 PM

    Elie, you are the one clogging up the 4 train, you svelte bastard

  31. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 4:03 PM

    That’s one shot, kid, that’s one shot!

  32. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 4:03 PM

    The last thing UW needs is another orange goat-eating troll running around. We have more than enough coasties as it is.

  33. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 4:06 PM

    Please do a real article on Wisconsin Law–one that highlights how money is handed out at that school….
    Talk about a “money under the table” scheme…I’m sure this is how a lot of schools operate, but at Wisconsin it was/is egregious. I have friends (minorities) who went into the law school admissions office/financial aide office, basically threatened to transfer out of state, and walked out with $10K no questions asked. Scholarships were made up on the spot for some students. DIVERSITY AT ALL COSTS! Laughable, considering people trying to leave definitely came from money.
    I’m happy to be out of there for a few years now. I wish there was an opt out box you could check on the “please send us money” letters that come every 3 months. Oh Wisconsin Law School, you will never see a dime from the alumni you did next to nothing for while we were there….hope those $10K scholarships come back to you some day…me thinks they will not.

  34. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 4:08 PM

    I am reading that intro paragraph and thinking that if we replaced Jersey Shore with the ghetto analogues it would be quite a racist paragraph. But that would be real funny too, wouldnt it Elie?

  35. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 4:09 PM

    Compared to Jersey Shore cast members, the QoL of law students and lawyers is seriously deficient. Think about it, which is really a better way to live: billing endless hours, or G.T.L?

  36. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 4:10 PM

    she looks like one of those puppets you make out of a dried-out and wrinkled potato.

  37. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 4:10 PM

    I am reading that intro paragraph and thinking that if we replaced Jersey Shore with the ghetto analogues it would be quite a racist paragraph. But that would be real funny too, wouldnt it Elie?

  38. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 4:18 PM

    Elie, I think YOU missed the 800-lb gorilla in the room (no, not going to say THAT), i.e., the “coastie” phenomenon at Big Ten schools in the Midwest like UW. Privileged & wealthy east coasters and kids from Chicagoland/burbs descend upon collegetowns and immediately chafe against their surroundings. I think this is a play on that. Google “coastie song.”
    Other than that, the school deserves the bad publicity for failing to land decent graduation speakers and settling at the last minute… par the course.
    But yes, the other story would be the DIVERSITY conspiracies (as noted above), though I doubt UW is unique in this respect for law schools outside the T14.

  39. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 4:20 PM

    Good post.

  40. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 4:22 PM

    Great Post Elie!

  41. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 4:23 PM

    Hell no, keep those mutant scum out of my state.

  42. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 4:27 PM

    Three fifths of Elie is still a fatass.

  43. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 4:27 PM

    30 -
    I don’t think PE considers any of those 64,000 to be “people.”

  44. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 4:29 PM

    Wisconsin is a joke of a state. If you graduate from a Wisconsin law school, then you don’t have to sit for the Wisconsin bar to practice in the state. You are automatically admitted:
    4.6 Wisconsin Diploma Privilege Requirements
    Years ago, many states had a “diploma privilege,” a set of course and grade requirements which, if fulfilled, allowed one to be admitted to practice without taking a bar exam. Wisconsin is now alone in retaining this privilege, by rule of the Wisconsin Supreme Court: http://www.wicourts.gov/supreme/sc_rules.jsp (see Chapter 40).

  45. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 4:31 PM

    Sorry – I think Snooki’s hot. Not as hot as Kash, but she is most definitely hot.

  46. Posted by Lady Soto | January 26, 2010 at 4:31 PM

    I empathize. When Snooki got punched by that guido, it reminded me of my arguments with Nino.

  47. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 4:33 PM

    GTL baby, GTL.

  48. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 4:35 PM

    47 – you have obviously been blinded by her hair poof

  49. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 4:38 PM

    Those of you new yorkers trashing WI as a “joke of a state” might want to take a look in the mirror at the cess pool you live in.

  50. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 4:42 PM

    46- why is that a joke? seems like a pretty good deal to me. one less ting to worry about.

  51. Posted by David Saint Hubbins | January 26, 2010 at 4:43 PM

    What’s wrong with being Jersey?

  52. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 4:45 PM

    First of all, we want Mike “the Situation”, not Snookie.
    Second of all, this is the great idea of all time.

  53. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 4:47 PM

    I fucking hate my classmates because of things like this.
    Wisco 3L.

  54. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 4:47 PM

    45, stop referring to PE as a person. It’s just some undersexed law student somewhere projecting his insecurities via a picture of the actor who played the president in the Harrison Ford vehicle “Clear and Present Danger.”

  55. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 4:49 PM

    First of all, we want Mike “the Situation”, not Snookie.
    Second of all, this is the greatest idea of all time and you are all just jealous that your graduation speakers were limp-wristed politicians and fat ambulance-chasers. That’s the situation.

  56. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 4:53 PM

    I’ll front an extra 50 if one of the girls will make out with Dean Dickey. 100 for one of the alleged males.

  57. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 4:55 PM

    53 – Because the Isle of Man is where its at

  58. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 4:57 PM

    Tucker Max would be much better commencement speaker, same level of douchbaggery, more intelligence + a law degree

  59. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 4:57 PM

    Tucker Max would be much better commencement speaker, same level of douchbaggery, more intelligence + a law degree

  60. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 4:58 PM

    This website typically has useful information, humorous anecdotes, and even some interesting articles from time to time. While I do enjoy the reading most of the time, giving so much attention to this stupidity really shows that Elie Mystal is a moron.

  61. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 4:58 PM

    This website typically has useful information, humorous anecdotes, and even some interesting articles from time to time. While I do enjoy the reading most of the time, giving so much attention to this stupidity really shows that Elie Mystal is a moron.

  62. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 4:59 PM

    Cool Michele Bachmann reference. She is one of the people who is ruining America? How does a mentally ill right-wing weirdo wackjob get elected? The people in her district must be literally retarded.

  63. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 5:00 PM

    Damn you biglaw wannabes are gullible. An obvious fake story. Wisconsin does not have a law school.

  64. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 5:04 PM

    This is an embarrassment for Wisconsin Law. That said, don’t hate on Wisco too much. Just a couple years out, paid just over $10k/year in-state tuition. Loans are already paid off. Making six figures. Wisconsin firms are so laid back compared to other states or even other offices of the same firm. Lower hours requirements. We actually get vacation. Really short commutes. Oh yeah… and I never had to take a Bar exam.

  65. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 5:07 PM

    61-62: I think the whole point is that having a law degree = LESS intelligence in today’s market. On the other hand, an awesome tan and chiselled abs are always worthwhile and comparatively inexpensive to acquire.

  66. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 5:09 PM

    East coast types are extremely common and loved at UW. Just Google “coastie” and you’ll understand. The Jersey Shore cast will blend in with the crowd.

  67. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 5:11 PM

    NEWS FLASH:
    PHJW NY is shit-canning 5 partners as of Friday. You heard it here first.

  68. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 5:17 PM

    67 – you live in Wisconsin. Wisconsin. Please let that sink in before posting again.

  69. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 5:17 PM

    Michelle Bachman is from Minnesota. Wisconsonites hate Minnesota. See Brett Favre.

  70. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 5:32 PM

    Snooki reminds me of the creepy clown on the “Saw” movies.

  71. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 6:13 PM

    Usually you guys have really good information but the only underground movement at Wisconsin is a hope that spring gets here quickly. This is a joke. Do you even know if the sender of the email actually goes to UW? Maybe it’s time to do some homework before posting jokes on a typically respectable site.

  72. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 6:41 PM

    71 – We subsist on beer, cheese, fried cheese, and beer-cheese soup. Am I missing something?

  73. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 6:56 PM

    70: I heard these partners are all in PH NY’s real estate department. All were de-equitized last year. Let the new season of PH Survivor begin!

  74. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 7:17 PM

    74- you are wrong. I am a 3L here, it’s happening.

  75. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 7:21 PM

    I know for a fact that the email was written by a 3L at UW who sits in a big black leather chair with a fat white cat and is laughing uncontrollably like he’s dr. evil because he knows ppl are taking this way too seriously (way too seriously)

  76. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 7:54 PM

    77, your individual efforts do not constitute an “underground movement.” Underground? Sure. Movement? No. I’m sorry you’re bitter about your lack of employment, but you certainly don’t speak for our class or our school. Thank you for singlehandedly embarassing our school.
    -UW 3L

  77. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 7:54 PM

    77, your individual efforts do not constitute an “underground movement.” Underground? Sure. Movement? No. I’m sorry you’re bitter about your lack of employment, but you certainly don’t speak for our class or our school. Thank you for singlehandedly embarassing our school.
    -UW 3L

  78. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 8:04 PM

    TTT to the max
    18 – you are the biggest dbag ever. Go to sleep.

  79. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 8:27 PM

    #46, you are definitely right. Taking three years of classes in Wisconsin, most of which deal at least partially in Wisconsin law, clearly makes someone less qualified to practice law in Wisconsin than someone who crammed for a month and took the bar exam.

  80. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 9:31 PM

    Why do i think of motorboats every time i see that pic?
    - another guy who wonders things

  81. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 9:44 PM

    79, I agree. I’m also a 3L at Wisconsin and this is embarrassing. Hmmm, let’s guess, which clique is behind this one? One can only guess. Good to see that Wisconsin Law finally gets mentioned on ATL. Oh wait, it’s for something stupid like this.

  82. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 9:45 PM

    79, I agree. I’m also a 3L at Wisconsin and this is embarrassing. Hmmm, let’s guess, which clique is behind this one? One can only guess. Good to see that Wisconsin Law finally gets mentioned on ATL. Oh wait, it’s for something stupid like this.

  83. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 10:07 PM

    82- I bet that many Wisconsin law school graduates (both schools) could not pass the bar exam merely because of taking courses that deal a bit with WI law.

  84. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 10:07 PM

    82- I bet that many Wisconsin law school graduates (both schools) could not pass the bar exam merely because of taking courses that deal a bit with WI law.

  85. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 10:15 PM

    Wow – what is the matter with all of you? Get a sense of humor… it’s a joke.

  86. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 10:23 PM

    If the current classes are anything like my class was, some SBA super-douche is probably wasting their time with this instead of studying like his/her dumb ass should be.

  87. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 10:25 PM

    This is going to happen. We contacted MTV and they have offered a discount if we get two or more cast members. Please other UW 3L’s vote for the two you would most like to see, who will have the most insightful things to tell us as we enter the legal world and we will tally your votes. -UW 3L

  88. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 10:30 PM

    “we will tally your votes” = 90 just confirmed my suspicions.
    - 89

  89. Posted by guest | January 26, 2010 at 11:06 PM

    Further proof that ATL prints anything and everything that people send it, no matter how inaccurate. Governor Doyle is doing graduation, and a call to UW would have confirmed that.

  90. Posted by guest | January 27, 2010 at 1:51 AM

    If you’re going to insult someone else’s literacy, you should avoid misusing a word such as “comprise.” A sentence can’t be “comprised of” certain words. A sentence can, however, “comprise” certain words. You’re looking for “composed of,” “containing,” etc.

  91. Posted by guest | January 27, 2010 at 3:53 AM

    Love you Snookers!!!

  92. Posted by guest | January 27, 2010 at 8:56 AM

    35 = bitter white kid with a 156 LSAT who is sad that he didn’t get any scholarship money.
    me = white female who got $4K a year.
    Newsflash: the money for minority scholarships comes from donors who earmark that money in that way. And lots of donations have come in that way. Bitter whities that don’t donate are only causing more of the issue they whine about.
    Quit being so hateful and open your wallet. The reason why UW struggles money-wise is tightwad idiots who can’t look at the big picture. More donations = better facilities = better caliber students = better USNWR rankings = more opportunities for grads. Man up!

  93. Posted by guest | January 27, 2010 at 9:07 AM

    I want to play the bongos on Snooki’s and Elie’s asses.
    - guy who likes to play the bongos on non-bongo things.

  94. Posted by guest | January 27, 2010 at 9:08 AM

    In the words of the immortal George Takei “Dry Oatmeal”

  95. Posted by guest | January 27, 2010 at 10:21 AM

    This is so ridiculous. First, to all those who shit on Wisconsin, we don’t fucking want you here. Second, to all those who are up in arms about this article, who cares what people thing? At least we know how to have fun. And if anyone comments on that and says that having fun won’t get you a career or some stupid elitist shit like that, you can take your prestigious career and shove it up your ass. I don’t want to be uptight like the rest of the legal community anyway.

  96. Posted by guest | January 27, 2010 at 10:35 AM

    I love the veiled racist comments, Elie. “They” clog up “your” 4 train? Try staying on the 4/5/6 train aboove 96th Street and see who clogs up that train, dickhead. Trust me, it ain’t guidos.

  97. Posted by guest | January 27, 2010 at 10:36 AM

    hunnerdth

  98. Posted by guest | January 27, 2010 at 11:32 AM

    Commenter 35 is so true. Good luck getting admitted if you’re an in-state white kid and not a legacy.

  99. Posted by guest | January 27, 2010 at 11:39 AM

    90-
    Be comprised of is an idiom for be composed of. I guess so many people used it incorrectly that it is now correct.

  100. Posted by guest | January 27, 2010 at 11:47 AM

    UW, I no longer consider you to be my top-tier peer.
    UC Davis 2L Secure

  101. Posted by guest | January 27, 2010 at 12:10 PM

    typical post from a clown that is not from NYC, moves here (specifically, Manhattan or Bklyn Heights) and thinks he is NYC.

  102. Posted by guest | January 27, 2010 at 12:45 PM

    71 – You are a faggot. Faggot. Please let that big black jungle snake sink back into your anal canal before posting again.
    - Not 67

  103. Posted by guest | January 27, 2010 at 3:01 PM

    You’d be better off just paying J-Woww to stand there topless.

  104. Posted by guest | January 28, 2010 at 2:08 AM

    Just imagine what the legal community would be like having lawyers who had cast of the Jersey Shore their graduation guest speakers.

  105. Posted by guest | January 28, 2010 at 12:35 PM

    Much much better than the shit show that it is now.

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