http://abovethelaw.com/2010/02/changes-in-legal-education-some-thoughts-from-dean-david-van-zandt/ Above the Law: A Legal Web Site – News, Commentary, and Opinions on Law Firms, Lawyers, Law School, Law Suits, Judges and Courts Wed, 15 Feb 2012 01:42:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.5 http://abovethelaw.com/2010/02/changes-in-legal-education-some-thoughts-from-dean-david-van-zandt/comment-page-2/#comment-495274 jamesd Mon, 19 Apr 2010 21:02:52 +0000 http://wp.abovethelaw.com/2010/02/changes-in-legal-education-some-thoughts-from-dean-david-van-zandt/#comment-495274 Opportunity to Learn<br><br>Just as I can point to lack on joy and motivation, I can point to adult learners that preferred to be guided. I can also point to situations where the instruction did not meet the initial needs articulated by the learners because the instruction itself changed the learner's and their stated needs………….<br><br><a href="http://www.sangambayard-c-m.com" rel="nofollow">legal education</a> Opportunity to LearnJust as I can point to lack on joy and motivation, I can point to adult learners that preferred to be guided. I can also point to situations where the instruction did not meet the initial needs articulated by the learners because the instruction itself changed the learner's and their stated needs………….legal education

]]> http://abovethelaw.com/2010/02/changes-in-legal-education-some-thoughts-from-dean-david-van-zandt/comment-page-2/#comment-494468 jamesd Fri, 16 Apr 2010 20:11:29 +0000 http://wp.abovethelaw.com/2010/02/changes-in-legal-education-some-thoughts-from-dean-david-van-zandt/#comment-494468 Boost your career<br><br>Taking courses online is also a great way to be able to do the class work on your own time rather than have time obligations and requirements for each course. It is now possible to have a fully booked life and go to school with ease. Also, you will want to consider all the money in gas you would be saving by not having to commute to school on a daily basis………….<br><br><a href="http://www.sangambayard-c-m.com" rel="nofollow">special courses</a> Boost your careerTaking courses online is also a great way to be able to do the class work on your own time rather than have time obligations and requirements for each course. It is now possible to have a fully booked life and go to school with ease. Also, you will want to consider all the money in gas you would be saving by not having to commute to school on a daily basis………….special courses

]]> http://abovethelaw.com/2010/02/changes-in-legal-education-some-thoughts-from-dean-david-van-zandt/comment-page-2/#comment-179301 guest Thu, 04 Feb 2010 16:06:02 +0000 http://wp.abovethelaw.com/2010/02/changes-in-legal-education-some-thoughts-from-dean-david-van-zandt/#comment-179301 $65k is far too low. But Schlunk's study is also questionable--he uses discount rates that go as high as 28% to find that the "break even point" is >= 160k. That's probably an appropriate discount rate for people dying of cancer and four year olds (I WANT IT NOW!) but it's far too high for most prospective law students. Even his lowest discount rate of 12%, which far exceeds the interest paid on student loans, seems a bit high. $65k is far too low. But Schlunk’s study is also questionable–he uses discount rates that go as high as 28% to find that the “break even point” is >= 160k. That’s probably an appropriate discount rate for people dying of cancer and four year olds (I WANT IT NOW!) but it’s far too high for most prospective law students. Even his lowest discount rate of 12%, which far exceeds the interest paid on student loans, seems a bit high.

]]> http://abovethelaw.com/2010/02/changes-in-legal-education-some-thoughts-from-dean-david-van-zandt/comment-page-2/#comment-179300 guest Thu, 04 Feb 2010 12:59:35 +0000 http://wp.abovethelaw.com/2010/02/changes-in-legal-education-some-thoughts-from-dean-david-van-zandt/#comment-179300 I'm awaiting a comment from David St. Hubbins before this posting qualifies as legit. I’m awaiting a comment from David St. Hubbins before this posting qualifies as legit.

]]> http://abovethelaw.com/2010/02/changes-in-legal-education-some-thoughts-from-dean-david-van-zandt/comment-page-2/#comment-179299 guest Thu, 04 Feb 2010 12:07:32 +0000 http://wp.abovethelaw.com/2010/02/changes-in-legal-education-some-thoughts-from-dean-david-van-zandt/#comment-179299 "I learned more in six months actually working at a firm practicing then I learned in three years of law school. " 22 = Elie “I learned more in six months actually working at a firm practicing then I learned in three years of law school. ”
22 = Elie

]]> http://abovethelaw.com/2010/02/changes-in-legal-education-some-thoughts-from-dean-david-van-zandt/comment-page-2/#comment-179298 guest Thu, 04 Feb 2010 12:01:57 +0000 http://wp.abovethelaw.com/2010/02/changes-in-legal-education-some-thoughts-from-dean-david-van-zandt/#comment-179298 37 - FTW 38 - FAIL 37 – FTW
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]]> http://abovethelaw.com/2010/02/changes-in-legal-education-some-thoughts-from-dean-david-van-zandt/comment-page-2/#comment-179297 guest Thu, 04 Feb 2010 11:59:07 +0000 http://wp.abovethelaw.com/2010/02/changes-in-legal-education-some-thoughts-from-dean-david-van-zandt/#comment-179297 Query: Someone should do a study by law school of the number of course hours taught by unpaid adjuncts relative to course hours taught by paid faculty to show how the school benefits from the effectively higher hourly rate charged the student. Query: Someone should do a study by law school of the number of course hours taught by unpaid adjuncts relative to course hours taught by paid faculty to show how the school benefits from the effectively higher hourly rate charged the student.

]]> http://abovethelaw.com/2010/02/changes-in-legal-education-some-thoughts-from-dean-david-van-zandt/comment-page-2/#comment-179296 guest Thu, 04 Feb 2010 11:57:00 +0000 http://wp.abovethelaw.com/2010/02/changes-in-legal-education-some-thoughts-from-dean-david-van-zandt/#comment-179296 Query: Someone should do a study by law school of the number of course hours taught by unpaid adjuncts relative to course hours taught by paid faculty to show how the school benefits from the effectively higher hourly rate charged the student. Query: Someone should do a study by law school of the number of course hours taught by unpaid adjuncts relative to course hours taught by paid faculty to show how the school benefits from the effectively higher hourly rate charged the student.

]]> http://abovethelaw.com/2010/02/changes-in-legal-education-some-thoughts-from-dean-david-van-zandt/comment-page-2/#comment-179295 guest Thu, 04 Feb 2010 11:56:38 +0000 http://wp.abovethelaw.com/2010/02/changes-in-legal-education-some-thoughts-from-dean-david-van-zandt/#comment-179295 Query: Someone should do a study by law school of the number of course hours taught by unpaid adjuncts relative to course hours taught by paid faculty to show how the school benefits from the effectively higher hourly rate charged the student. Query: Someone should do a study by law school of the number of course hours taught by unpaid adjuncts relative to course hours taught by paid faculty to show how the school benefits from the effectively higher hourly rate charged the student.

]]> http://abovethelaw.com/2010/02/changes-in-legal-education-some-thoughts-from-dean-david-van-zandt/comment-page-2/#comment-179294 guest Thu, 04 Feb 2010 10:21:44 +0000 http://wp.abovethelaw.com/2010/02/changes-in-legal-education-some-thoughts-from-dean-david-van-zandt/#comment-179294 The HYS in "HYS Secure" means Hofstra, Yeshiva, St. Thomas. It referes to the tier of law school he attended. The HYS in “HYS Secure” means Hofstra, Yeshiva, St. Thomas. It referes to the tier of law school he attended.

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