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	<title>Comments on: UT Law Fallout: Professors, Students Scramble</title>
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		<title>By: Texas mythbuster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Texas mythbuster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 09:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;This is not really shocking, most firms in Texas already know this. Partners know that they will get better quality work from Baylor, SMU, UH, and even Texas Tech grads; but since UT is the &quot;best law school in Texas,&quot; firms still have to hire a couple to maintain their prestige and rep among clients and other firms.&lt;br&gt;Last I heard, students on UT law review don&#039;t even get credit hours for being on law review. The school isn&#039;t concerned about legal writing. What is embarassing is when a law grad from an out-of-state law school knows how to properly cite Texas cases and use the Green Book (which is published by the UT Law Review), and the average UT Law grad doesn&#039;t even know there are different citation rules to watch out for. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;1) I&#039;m a 1L and we use Bluebook, and the Green Book (for Texas cases) in LRLW.  If you want to become a Bluebook expert, join a journal.  There are plenty of opportunities to do this, even for the more lackluster students, and as soon as FIRST SEMESTER of 1L year.&lt;br&gt;2) Hahah, yeah, Baylor, SMU, and Tech are so much better that they always offer even the lower-end UT-caliber students full rides.  This is because they know that UT has much more to offer academically and career-wise.  And Tech, really?  If you actually knew what you were talking about, anyway, you would have thrown in U of H, because it&#039;s better than all three (but not better than UT).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>This is not really shocking, most firms in Texas already know this. Partners know that they will get better quality work from Baylor, SMU, UH, and even Texas Tech grads; but since UT is the &#8220;best law school in Texas,&#8221; firms still have to hire a couple to maintain their prestige and rep among clients and other firms.Last I heard, students on UT law review don&#039;t even get credit hours for being on law review. The school isn&#039;t concerned about legal writing. What is embarassing is when a law grad from an out-of-state law school knows how to properly cite Texas cases and use the Green Book (which is published by the UT Law Review), and the average UT Law grad doesn&#039;t even know there are different citation rules to watch out for. </i>1) I&#039;m a 1L and we use Bluebook, and the Green Book (for Texas cases) in LRLW.  If you want to become a Bluebook expert, join a journal.  There are plenty of opportunities to do this, even for the more lackluster students, and as soon as FIRST SEMESTER of 1L year.2) Hahah, yeah, Baylor, SMU, and Tech are so much better that they always offer even the lower-end UT-caliber students full rides.  This is because they know that UT has much more to offer academically and career-wise.  And Tech, really?  If you actually knew what you were talking about, anyway, you would have thrown in U of H, because it&#039;s better than all three (but not better than UT).</p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>25 - UT undergrad barely cracks the top 50
UT MBA program is below the Top 10 ~ 18th
UT LAW is nowhere near T5 status
Maybe its the Petroleum Engineering program that&#039;s top 5 because their are only about 8 left in the country.
LSU tries to claim that title as well.
Don&#039;t mess with Texas haha
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>25 &#8211; UT undergrad barely cracks the top 50<br />
UT MBA program is below the Top 10 ~ 18th<br />
UT LAW is nowhere near T5 status<br />
Maybe its the Petroleum Engineering program that&#8217;s top 5 because their are only about 8 left in the country.<br />
LSU tries to claim that title as well.<br />
Don&#8217;t mess with Texas haha</p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is exactly why I have eczema.
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		<title>By: guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best comment is #48!  Nice one.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best comment is #48!  Nice one.</p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 01:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Non-native Texan here, but I went down to UT for law and felt it was just fine in all academic respects (and much better in social and environment than almost any other law school).  Let&#039;s call this what it is:  a couple over-zealous 1Ls who ignorantly wrote and published a piece without understanding or thinking through the actual consequences of their actions.
That being said, I sincerely doubt that I was hired because of my writing skills or lack thereof.  I took brief writing as a 1L elective, despite my (now realized) goal of working as a transactional attorney.  I at one point knew bluebook and greenbook, but don&#039;t have a need for either these days.
UT doesn&#039;t teach you how to be a courtroom attorney upon graduation.  Get over it, most &#039;elite&#039;/good/national law schools don&#039;t.  If you want to go hang a shingle in Texas or work at a small firm (plaintiffs work, amber lamps chaser, etc.) then definitely go to or hire grads from Baylor, Tech, etc. and not Texas.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Non-native Texan here, but I went down to UT for law and felt it was just fine in all academic respects (and much better in social and environment than almost any other law school).  Let&#8217;s call this what it is:  a couple over-zealous 1Ls who ignorantly wrote and published a piece without understanding or thinking through the actual consequences of their actions.<br />
That being said, I sincerely doubt that I was hired because of my writing skills or lack thereof.  I took brief writing as a 1L elective, despite my (now realized) goal of working as a transactional attorney.  I at one point knew bluebook and greenbook, but don&#8217;t have a need for either these days.<br />
UT doesn&#8217;t teach you how to be a courtroom attorney upon graduation.  Get over it, most &#8216;elite&#8217;/good/national law schools don&#8217;t.  If you want to go hang a shingle in Texas or work at a small firm (plaintiffs work, amber lamps chaser, etc.) then definitely go to or hire grads from Baylor, Tech, etc. and not Texas.</p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have just forgiven tiger woods
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		<title>By: guest</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is EXACTLY why I purchase copious amounts of porn.
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		<title>By: guest</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just want to comment on some of the anti-Texas elitism taking place.  I&#039;m a native New Yorker and 2L at UT Law and just want to say that the idea that UT Law isn&#039;t deserving of its T15 status is exactly the kind of contentious bullshit that gives the northeast its high douchiness quotient.
I am extremely appreciative of UT Law and could not be more satisfied with the quality of the overall education, career placement services, and academia.  I had no interest in staying in Texas but also had no trouble whatsoever finding placement in NY Biglaw.  The Texas Law Review is higher ranked than the law school, for good reason, particularly given how often its cited and how hard its students work.
Nefound Longhorn for life.  Hook &#039;em.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to comment on some of the anti-Texas elitism taking place.  I&#8217;m a native New Yorker and 2L at UT Law and just want to say that the idea that UT Law isn&#8217;t deserving of its T15 status is exactly the kind of contentious bullshit that gives the northeast its high douchiness quotient.<br />
I am extremely appreciative of UT Law and could not be more satisfied with the quality of the overall education, career placement services, and academia.  I had no interest in staying in Texas but also had no trouble whatsoever finding placement in NY Biglaw.  The Texas Law Review is higher ranked than the law school, for good reason, particularly given how often its cited and how hard its students work.<br />
Nefound Longhorn for life.  Hook &#8216;em.</p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I assume that you are being sarcastic, 63?  I would guess that no vault 100 firm has more Tech or Baylor grads than UT grads.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I assume that you are being sarcastic, 63?  I would guess that no vault 100 firm has more Tech or Baylor grads than UT grads.</p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>56, I go to a T14 and we don&#039;t get course credit for LR.  As far as I know, no other T14 school gives such credit (though maybe I&#039;m wrong).  Pretty sure that&#039;s unique to your Baylor or Texas Tech Law Review.  Gotta get something for all that work since it&#039;s not helping you get a job.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>56, I go to a T14 and we don&#8217;t get course credit for LR.  As far as I know, no other T14 school gives such credit (though maybe I&#8217;m wrong).  Pretty sure that&#8217;s unique to your Baylor or Texas Tech Law Review.  Gotta get something for all that work since it&#8217;s not helping you get a job.</p>
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