Vault 100 open threads – 2009

comparing.jpgThis marks the end of our review of the firms in the Vault 100. This is the final bunch up for discussion (with prestige scores in parentheses):

91. Lovells (4.494)
92. Thelen Reid Brown Raysman & Steiner LLP (4.489)
93. Hughes Hubbard & Reed LLP (4.478)
94. Kramer Levin Naftalis & Frankel LLP (4.459)
95. Kilpatrick Stockton LLP (4.452)
96. Locke Lord Bissell & Liddell LLP (4.439)
97. Squire, Sanders & Dempsey LLP (4.421)
98. Seyfarth Shaw (4.399)
99. Mintz, Levin, Cohn, Ferris, Glovsky and Popeo PC (4.394)
100. Fenwick & West LLP (4.373)

Discuss. Dissect. Compare. Contrast. Most of all, enjoy.
Earlier: Vault 100 Open Threads – 2009

comparing.jpgOur Vault 100 series is winding down. We hope that the insiders have enjoyed the opportunity to brag (or to vent) about their firms. And that the curious have appreciated insights into life at various firms in the top 100.
Here is the next bunch up for discussion (with their prestige scores in parentheses):

81. Crowell & Moring LLP (4.763)
82. Katten Muchin Rosenman LLP (4.754)
83. Stroock & Stroock & Lavan LLP (4.735)
84. Arent Fox PLLC (4.726)
85. McGuireWoods LLP (4.697)
86. Venable LLP (4.676)
87. Dorsey & Whitney LLP (4.575)
88. Dickstein Shapiro LLP (4.554)
89. Baker & Hostetler (4.531)
90. Finnegan, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett & Dunner, L.L.P (4.503)

Are the following statements true or false?

  • Venable attorneys like bocce ball.
  • Katten attorneys need Weight Watchers.
  • Having your tupperware washed denotes a “notable perk.”
  • Getting to leave early and have the firm respect your personal time is the best perk of all.
  • Okay, you know the drill.
    Earlier: Vault 100 Open Threads – 2009

    comparing.jpgThe Vault 100 march continues! In this series of open threads, we list the firms, and you all discuss their upsides and downsides. We’ll be wrapping this puppy up this week.
    Here are the next ten (with prestige scores in parentheses):

    71. Nixon Peabody LLP (5.218)
    72. Hunton & Williams LLP (5.208)
    73. Perkins Coie LLP (5.119)
    74. Reed Smith LLP (5.057)
    75. Patton Boggs LLP (5.050)
    76. Chadbourne & Parke LLP (4.997)
    77. Bryan Cave LLP (4.969)
    78. Thacher Proffitt & Wood LLP (4.967)
    79. Howrey LLP (4.926)
    80. Schulte Roth & Zabel LLP (4.910)

    Usually, we have fun with the “notable perks” chosen by Vault. But as we move down the list, the perks are becoming distinctly less notable — e.g., gym membership discounts, free parking, and “good views.” Oh well.
    You know what to do! Have at it in the comments.
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    comparing.jpgJudging from our traffic, readers are enjoying this rundown of the Vault 100. We do aim to please here at ATL. We appreciate those who have offered insights about firms in the comments.
    Moving on to the next group (with prestige scores in parentheses):

    61. Cahill Gordon & Reindel LLP (5.608)
    62. Sonnenschein Nath & Rosenthal LLP (5.583)
    63. Bingham McCutchen LLP (5.583)
    64. Greenberg Traurig, LLP (5.478)
    65. Holland & Knight LLP (5.416)
    66. Heller Ehrman LLP (5.346)
    67. Foley & Lardner LLP (5.266)
    68. Steptoe & Johnson LLP (5.252)
    69. K&L Gates LLP (5.242)
    70. Kaye Scholer LLP (5.230)

    As we move down the Vault list, “notable perks” are becoming less elaborate. This group is dominated by tales of free food, from endless soda at Greenberg Traurig to weekend doughnuts and muffins at Foley. And it appears that Pillsbury lacks a monopoly on cookie benefits; over at Cahill, lawyers are plied with “twice daily cookie trays.”
    We note this food-related perk at Bingham: “If any lawyer takes out a more junior lawyer for drinks/dinner, he/she can submit the expense to the mentoring budget AND the senior person can get creditable hours.” Can you expense the roofies?
    We invite you to compare and contrast these firms’ work, lifestyle, benefits… and cookies, in the comments.
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    comparing.jpgWe’re entering the second half of the Vault 100. This is part of a series of open threads to discuss the firms considered to be the profession’s most prestigious. Because we know you love prestige. And the opportunity for “TTT” accusations. [FN1]
    Here’s the next bunch of firms, with prestige scores in parentheses:

    51. Munger, Tolles & Olson LLP (5.851)
    52. Dechert LLP (5.838)
    53. Vinson & Elkins LLP (5.822)
    54. Goodwin Procter LLP (5.815)
    55. Jenner & Block LLP (5.778)
    56. Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman LLP (5.728)
    57. Alston & Bird LLP (5.715)
    58. Fish & Richardson P.C. (5.706)
    59. Cooley Godward LLP (5.692)
    60. Irell & Manella LLP (5.635)

    doughboy.jpgVault notes that attorneys at Pillsbury are treated to “freshly baked cookies.” But they also have to put up with being referred to as “Pillsburians” by Vault.
    Compare, contrast, discuss… and if you’re at Pillsbury, have a chocolate chip cookie for us.
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    [FN1] We periodically get e-mails asking for the definition of “TTT,” which appears so often in comment threads. As the uninitiated have surely gathered, it’s a derogatory term. Likely originating on AutoAdmit, it stands for “third tier toilet.” For more, see Urban Dictionary.

    comparing.jpgWe’re back with another installment in our series of open threads on the Vault 100. This is an opportunity for insiders to sound off on their firms for the benefit of wannabe potential first-year and lateral associates.
    Here are the next ten on the Vault list, with prestige scores in parentheses:

    41. Baker Botts LLP (6.096)
    42. King & Spalding LLP (6.066)
    43. DLA Piper (6.039)
    44. Baker & McKenzie (5.982)
    45. Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati (5.976)
    46. Boies, Schiller & Flexner LLP (5.974)
    47. Morgan, Lewis & Bockius LLP (5.941)
    48. Dewey & LeBoeuf (5.924)
    49. Fulbright & Jaworski LLP (5.906)
    50. McDermott, Will & Emery (5.892)

    The most interesting set of “notable perks” in this bunch can be found at Boies Schiller. On the upside, there is an annual trip to Jamaica for attorneys and their families — in December, no less — but on the downside, it’s a “sweatshop run by a genius.” This makes us think of David Boies as the legal profession’s Santa Claus — who likes to take the elves to Montego Bay.
    We invite the curious to ask questions about these firms, and for those in-the-know to take pity.
    Earlier: Vault 100 Open Threads – 2009

    comparing.jpgWelcome to another post in the 2009 Vault 100 open thread series. You all seem to like having the law firms listed in groups of ten, so we’ll keep it up. Here are the thirty-something firms from the Vault 100, with prestige scores in parentheses:

    31. Fried, Frank, Harris, Shriver & Jacobson LLP (6.461)
    32. Freshfields Bruckhaus Deringer LLP (6.327)
    33. Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld LLP (6.313)
    34. Winston & Strawn LLP (6.275)
    35. Quinn Emanuel Urquhart Oliver & Hedges LLP (6.235)
    36. Willkie Farr & Gallagher LLP (6.174)
    37. Orrick, Herrington & Sutcliffe (6.173)
    38. Allen & Overy LLP (6.147)
    39. Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft (6.131)
    40. Proskauer Rose LLP (6.102)

    Fried Frank and Cadwalader have been on the ATL radar of late. We broke news of staff layoffs at Fried Frank earlier this week, and news of the attorney bloodletting at Cadwalader last month. As noted in Cadwalader’s notable perks: “ouch, layoffs.” (Speaking of, in going through the Vault 100 list, we’ve discovered that Vault’s definition of “perk” is very different from ours.)
    In the comments, the curious can pose questions, and the insiders can share insights. More threads to come.
    Earlier: Vault 100 Open Threads – 2009

    comparing.jpgIn connection with on-campus interviewing season, we’re giving you a chance to assess the firms that made this year’s Vault 100 list of most prestigious law firms. The previous open threads listed firms in groups of five, but to up the pace, we’ll list them by ten from here on out. Here’s the next group, with prestige scores in parentheses:

    21. O’Melveny & Myers LLP (6.815)
    22. Clifford Chance LLP (6.772)
    23. Jones Day (6.763)
    24. Morrison & Foerster LLP (6.657)
    25. Hogan & Hartson LLP (6.579)
    26. Linklaters (6.574)
    27. Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy (6.512)
    28. Ropes & Gray LLP (6.501)
    29. Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP (6.494)
    30. Paul, Hastings, Janofsky & Walker (6.481)

    We note Magic Circle firm Linklaters making a big leap from the high 30s in the 2008 list to #26 this year — perhaps because its “notable perks” include group retreats to Europe, a drinks trolley, and an on-site doctor and dentist.
    Compare. Contrast. Discuss. Thanks.
    Earlier: Vault 100 Open Threads – 2009

    comparing.jpgReasons for reading ATL vary from person to person. But we have been told by some people that one of the greatest benefits of following the site is gaining familiarity with law firms and the differences between them.
    In that vein, we shall continue on with our series of open threads on the Vault 100. (Sorry, haters! Though we are taking under advisement the idea that we list them in groups of ten from this point forward.)
    Here are the next five, with prestige scores in parentheses:

    16. Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP (7.056)
    17. Wilmer Cutler Pickering Hale and Dorr LLP (7.055)
    18. White & Case LLP (7.054)
    19. Shearman & Sterling LLP (7.043)
    20. Arnold & Porter LLP (6.905)

    Of the five, White & Case has the most bizarre list of notable perks: “Gender- and reason-neutral flexible work arrangement program” (what does that mean?), “Cold, anonymous” (yippee?), and “Dinosaur” (the ferocious or the fossilized kind?).
    Time to compare and contrast. We invite you to have at it.
    Earlier: Vault 100 Open Threads- 2009

    comparing.jpgIn honor of the new Vault rankings, we’re doing a series of open threads on the 100 most prominent law firms. We invite you to compare and contrast the firms in the comments. In the last open thread on Vault firms 6-10, there was an animated discussion about litigation at Cleary and which Kirkland office is best to work for.
    Moving on down the Vault 100 list, here’s the next bunch up for discussion, with prestige scores in parentheses:

    11. Covington & Burling LLP (7.428)
    12. Debevoise & Plimpton LLP (7.417)
    13. Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP (7.290)
    14. Williams & Connolly LLP (7.238)
    15. Sidley Austin LLP (7.201)

    smarties.jpgThe oddest language in the “notable perks” in this bunch is at Williams & Connolly: “Fancy bunch of smarties.” Well-dressed intelligent lawyers, or a big basket of the tart candy?
    Please discuss the work, perks, and lifestyle at these firms in the comments. More threads to come.
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