A large portion of the strenuous life of bloggers consists of cruising various news sites, looking for some tidbit ridiculous interesting enough to merit a couple hundred words. You do this long enough, and you wind up getting picky pretty quickly. So, last night, when I clicked over to Wired, it was surprising in and of itself that when I saw the following story I literally stared at the screen, slack jawed, for close to a minute.
That’s how ridiculous this proposed legislation coming out of New York is. The only thing I can say is that if this bill somehow managed to become law, the Above the Law commentariat would not be happy at all…
I’m not even mad. I’m just impressed that a group of state legislators managed to draft this with a straight face. Here is what Wired’s Threat Level had to say:
Did you hear the one about New York state lawmakers who forgot about the First Amendment in the name of combating cyberbullying and “baseless political attacks”?
Proposed legislation in both chambers would require New York-based websites, such as blogs and newspapers, to “remove any comments posted on his or her website by an anonymous poster unless such anonymous poster agrees to attach his or her name to the post.”
No votes on the measures have been taken. But unless the First Amendment is repealed, they stand no chance of surviving any constitutional scrutiny even if they were approved.
Republican Assemblyman Jim Conte said the legislation would cut down on “mean-spirited and baseless political attacks” and “turns the spotlight on cyberbullies by forcing them to reveal their identity.”
Had the internet been around in the late 1700s, perhaps the anonymously written Federalist Papers would have to be taken down unless Alexander Hamilton, James Madison and John Jay revealed themselves.
Conte, are you f**king serious, man? I’m pretty sure most people with even a rudimentary understanding of the internet think this is a dumb idea — except, apparently, for elected officials.
Sadly, Assemblyman Jim Conte and almost half of New York’s Assembly Republicans have signed on to this nonsense and waste of everyone’s time and money.
I’m not worried about this passing, not even a little bit. Because it won’t. What is upsetting is that one morning the idea for this grew in somebody’s mind (aka the bill’s sponsor, Thomas O’Mara). And instead of immediately thinking “that is the stupidest thought I had ever had in my life” and going back to eating Cheerios and acting like a normal human, eventually hours of time were spent were spent fleshing it out.
1. Definitions. As used in this section, the following words and terms shall have the following meanings:
(a) ["]Anonymous poster["] is any individual who posts a message on a web site including social networks, blogs forums, message boards or any other discussion site where people can hold conversations in the form of posted messages.
(b) “Web site administrator” means any person or entity that is responsible for maintaining a web site or managing the content or development of information provided on a web site including social networks, blogs forums, message boards or any other discussion site where people can hold conversations in the form of posted messages, accessible via a network such as the internet or a private local area network.
2. A web site administrator upon request shall remove any comments posted on his or her web site by an anonymous poster unless such anonymous poster agrees to attach his or her name to the post and confirms that his or her IP address, legal name, and home address are accurate. All web site administrators shall have a contact number or e-mail address posted for such removal requests, clearly visible in any sections where comments are posted.
The bill has actually been floating around for a while. I can only assume the reason it hasn’t received more coverage is because most media outlets assumed it was a prank. That said, the Volokh Conspiracy covered the bill earlier this month and provided a straightforward legal analysis bodyslam (by Professor Eugene Volokh):
It’s not clear what it means to “confirm” that one’s IP address, legal name, and home address are accurate; but at the very least, this bill would require a Web site administrator — me, for instance, if I were found to subject to New York jurisdiction — to remove any comment unless the commenter signs his name to it.
Nor would this be limited to comments that allegedly libel someone, or even insult someone (though that would be bad enough), despite all the talk of preventing cyber-bullying by the bill’s backers. Rather, the law would apply any time anyone makes a “request” that a comment be removed, even if the comment doesn’t mention anyone by name but is simply religiously or politically offensive to the “request[er].” The same would apply to anonymous material added to Wikipedia, if Wikipedia were found to be subject to New York jurisdiction, anonymous videos posted to YouTube, and so on.
I’ve discussed my views on bullying and cyberbullying before. But honestly, it sounds like New York lawmakers could stand to get bullied a little, if it would prevent them from introducing garbage like this.
A college graduate without student loan debt is akin to reading a kind quote about Kim Kardashian in a tabloid—it’s rare.
In the past eight years, student loan debt has nearly tripled to a whopping $1.1 trillion, and in the past 10 years, the percentage of 25-year-olds with such debt has risen from 25% to 43%
It’s gotten so bad, in fact, that New York Fed economists warned last month that the burden of student debt could stilt consumer spending by twentysomethings, as well as further hamper the recovery of the housing market and economy.
To get a better idea of what massive student loan debt (we’re talking over $100,000 massive) looks like, we talked to an attorney who graduated with a large student loan debt. We also consulted LearnVest Planning Services CFP® Katie Brewer to see just how their repayment plans stack up.
S. Fischer, 36, Attorney Graduated: 2001
How Much I Borrowed: $100,000
What I Still Owe: $45,000
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Ed. note: The Asia Chronicles column is authored by Kinney Recruiting. Kinney has made more placements of U.S. associates, counsels and partners in Asia than any other recruiting firm in each of the past six years. You can reach them by email: asia@kinneyrecruiting.com.
Deal flow has clearly picked recently up for most US associates, counsels and partners in Hong Kong/China and Singapore. We are on the phone with a lot of these folks on a daily basis, many of whom we have known for years. Further, the head of our Asia team, Evan Jowers, and Kinney’s founder and president, Robert Kinney, frequently meet in person with leading US partners in Asia to assess their needs and keep on top of the inside scoop at as many firms as possible. The need for legal recruiting help in Asia from experienced recruiters appears to be live and well. In March, Evan and Robert were in Beijing at such meetings, in April, Evan was in Hong Kong, and for half of June Evan will be in Shanghai and Hong Kong. Thus its pretty easy for us to tell when there has been an across-the-market pick up in capital markets and corporate work.
On an average day in Asia when Evan and Robert visit firms, they typically have 5 to 9 meetings a day, mostly with US partners in the market. The reason they have these meetings is not simply because Kinney makes a lot of US attorney placements in Asia and that a particular firm may have openings; instead these are just visits with friends. After years of working together as business partners, the folks at Kinney are actually these peoples’ friends. The firms Kinney work closely with in Asia (which is just about every law firm – call us if you want to know the one firm in the world we will never place anyone with again, ever, and why) look forward to the visits, or at least act like they do. After seven years in the market, many of the client partners are former associate candidates. Also, these US partners see Kinney as a very good source of market information as well, because they know how deep their contacts are in the market and how frequently they are speaking to counterparts at peer firms.
New York Lawmakers Want to Ban Anonymous Commenting. I Wish I Were Kidding.
By Christopher Danzigridiculousinteresting enough to merit a couple hundred words. You do this long enough, and you wind up getting picky pretty quickly. So, last night, when I clicked over to Wired, it was surprising in and of itself that when I saw the following story I literally stared at the screen, slack jawed, for close to a minute.That’s how ridiculous this proposed legislation coming out of New York is. The only thing I can say is that if this bill somehow managed to become law, the Above the Law commentariat would not be happy at all…
I’m not even mad. I’m just impressed that a group of state legislators managed to draft this with a straight face. Here is what Wired’s Threat Level had to say:
Conte, are you f**king serious, man? I’m pretty sure most people with even a rudimentary understanding of the internet think this is a dumb idea — except, apparently, for elected officials.
Sadly, Assemblyman Jim Conte and almost half of New York’s Assembly Republicans have signed on to this nonsense and waste of everyone’s time and money.
I’m not worried about this passing, not even a little bit. Because it won’t. What is upsetting is that one morning the idea for this grew in somebody’s mind (aka the bill’s sponsor, Thomas O’Mara). And instead of immediately thinking “that is the stupidest thought I had ever had in my life” and going back to eating Cheerios and acting like a normal human, eventually hours of time were spent were spent fleshing it out.
Wired doesn’t even touch on the specific wording in the Internet Protection Act, which is even more bizarre. Specifically, look at paragraph number 2:
The bill has actually been floating around for a while. I can only assume the reason it hasn’t received more coverage is because most media outlets assumed it was a prank. That said, the Volokh Conspiracy covered the bill earlier this month and provided a straightforward legal analysis bodyslam (by Professor Eugene Volokh):
I’ve discussed my views on bullying and cyberbullying before. But honestly, it sounds like New York lawmakers could stand to get bullied a little, if it would prevent them from introducing garbage like this.
New York Legislation Would Ban Anonymous Online Speech [Wired / Threat Level]
Nearly Half the New York Assembly Republicans: Require Deletion of Anonymous Comments Whenever Anyone Complains [Volokh Conspiracy]
Internet Protection Act [New York State Assembly]
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