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Back in 2018 at the Academy Awards ceremony, Francis McDormand called attention to something called an inclusion rider as a way to increase diversity in Hollywood during her acceptance speech for Best Actress. In the latest episode of The Jabot podcast, I chat with Kalpana Kotagal, partner at Cohen Milstein, and co-author of the Hollywood “inclusion rider.”
We talk about what it was like when her work was suddenly thrust onto the national stage, the importance of networking, how the principles behind the rider can be applied to other industries (particularly the legal industry), and practical tips for dealing with inequality in the workplace.
The Jabot podcast is an offshoot of the Above the Law brand focused on the challenges women, people of color, LGBTQIA, and other diverse populations face in the legal industry. Our name comes from none other than the Notorious Ruth Bader Ginsburg and the jabot (decorative collar) she wears when delivering dissents from the bench. It’s a reminder that even when we aren’t winning, we’re still a powerful force to be reckoned with.
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Kathryn Rubino is a Senior Editor at Above the Law, and host of The Jabot podcast. AtL tipsters are the best, so please connect with her. Feel free to email her with any tips, questions, or comments and follow her on Twitter (@Kathryn1).